Mrsvee's 2 Cents

2007-04-03T00:05:00.000Z

JOIN MRSVIP: SURF TO COME SOON...
New Matrix....New Surf to come soon..
why not a new webpage??

This site NOW moved to:

http://mrsvees2cents.com/blog/

2007-03-27T18:51:00.001Z

Quick Update:

DailyROI: I don't know where this lame rumor started that Daily has some new 50/50 rule; but, it's NOT true. The rule is the same as it's always been. I know the admins of Daily are bombarded with angry emails and for what?? It's not even true!
Why Jake/ASA felt the need to put this on his broadcast is beyond me--maybe he misunderstood--but, news to be VERIFIED before it's delivered via a newscast.
We ALL know the panic people in these programs can engage in...
It's not a far stretch that Daily's TSMC funds are not as accessible as we'd like--and, of course, that WILL cause some issues with those members waiting on those funds. This is a TRI-STAR MC issue--NOT a Daily ROI issue.

People: before you panic--get answers! Verify things before you go in panic mode and start emailing admins with nasties. IF there were some change to the 50/50 rule...I would think James & Mike would have emailed out a detailed explanation....

THERE IS NO CHANGE!! IF DailyROI members want to keep this great program--I'd suggest you all stop the panic and go on about surfing, etc....

Matrix News:

"Live launch" will be VERY soon; so, we wanted to make everyone aware (if you plan on signing up) that you will need $27.50 to sign up FIRST.
Then $7.50 weekly during pre-launch; this will go to $10 weekly after that.
I've spent $ 365 on the reports that will be available upon pre-launch; so, you're getting your 'money's worth'....
Since we have a ONE TIME ONLY $20 initial fee--we are 'upping' the fast start bonus paid to you for everyone you bring in the first time to $10 a person FROM $5.
This will add up--believe me.
This is a good residual base--so, on top of THAT--you are getting the in-depth reports on programs/admins you request as members in our forum (URL to be released soon).

We will be launching with Solid Trust Pay for now only...as Alertpay still has not sent me any code for subscriptions. We can't delay anymore. Testing of the Solid Trust Pay code threw our script for 'a loop' for a bit...(which caused the delays)...but, final testing is about complete and all looks great!

Essentials of the Matrix:

3x9 Forced

$10 Fast start bonus for all downlines you personally sponsor-

WEEKLY payouts based on those earnings above ($10 minimum)

Inclusion in the surf site to come in approximately 2-3 months--we are building this NOW.

The MAJOR plans and development along with a CUSTOM script (that is not cheap) are what we are working on all ready. We will NOT operate a ponzi!
I have a method that WILL allow this surf to be the FIRST legitimate surf. In addition to THAT concept, our team is comprised of people who ARE VERY knowledgeable in trading and Forex. So, while building my plan for legitimacy (which will take a minimum membership base to accomplish and deals with REAL traffic) we will have THOSE plans to sustain us--as we are building now.
A DIVERSIFIED portfolio is being implemented to ensure LONG TERM success--not just the run of the mill--3-6 month run. We are taking this VERY seriously--as we are sick of people losing money--we're sick of mismanagement--we're sick of hit & runners--we're sick of admins who act like YOU are the LUCKY ones--
Bottom line:
We're sick of what this industry has become--so, instead of just bitching about it--we intend to do our BEST to render change--at least in OURS.

Get your thinking CHANGED: Instant gratification is a KILLER mentality: PERIOD.
This causes MORE risk..and you guessed it: MORE LOSS!
Is that what you REALLY want? If so: Good Luck
If it's NOT what you want: Stay tuned!

2007-03-24T02:03:00.000Z

I decided to try Planet-Surf; Jack from Maximum's new site. I hope Jack stops at 3 sites--admins tend to take on more than they have time for--Jack runs good sites, so for now...I'm in. I'm in Twilight Adz as well and like it so far, too.
It's customary for people to think of cash flow issues when admins continue to open new sites; I hope that's NOT the case with these. We'll see.
I think this one will do well--the design is good--and the hierarchy of sites to surf--ref commissions all waiver dependent on money put in (which is good).

Quick Update:

Matrix is FINALLY about ready! Yeah!! I have a new empathy for admins when they are TRULY having code issues....(sheesh)....
The processor code kept double billing....and with code being tossed back & forth--we 'think' we finally have it done....(testing now & all is well far: knocking on wood NOW)...

We'll be off & running very soon now.....

Just a note: The next step in this IS a surf site....I know I've mentioned that, but I wanted it to sink in. I've been (as have SO many bloggers) trying to drive home the LOW return facet.
Instant gratification gets you losses quicker than anything; we all want that good score...fast score...and shoot: it DOES feel good.
BUT: take some time and add up all those 'great scores'--now go deduct the LOSSES.
What do you get? MOST of you will get a negative number--and THAT, my friends, needs to change.
Get back to wanting something REALLY stable...something that CAN last...
something that will STILL earn you more than you could ever make just letting it sit in a bank...
RE-TRAIN your thinking---
The site we will bring you will be safe...stable...and here for the long term.

Look forward to earning a stable income to cushion your existing one...
The matrix will be the 1st (baby) step....and with the AWESOME income opp....you get data that is truly valuable. I spent $300 of my money for the reports coming up...and more to come...

Ok: surf news:

I'm liking Elite Surfing a lot....it's doing very well. I have a pending as of today...will post when that comes through...
Daily ROI: Love this one....they are doing a fantastic job...and have plenty in store to be even stronger (tip: daily roi is one of my reports this month in the matrix)
4Newbies: Paid this morning--great to see!
DSM: Cashed out today...look forward to that payout and a continuing effort here.
Coastin88 & CEPC: paid quickly as usual when I request.
Virtual Surf: Paid instantly--as always

I looked at 18hitsdaily: It is a Will/Cathy site....there are about 69 or so sites hosted here...only about 8-10 are actually 'theirs'....(if that)....

I heard back (after an inquiry about Paypal's licensing in Ky)....from a state official there:
Paypal IS licensed in Kentucky....must be newly completed as I don't think Paypal has that one listed yet. I was shocked....but, the fact remains: Paypal is licensed there.
I've talked to many of these officials....there IS a lot of various information, and I made that clear to these officials that there IS misinformation....and when there appear to be 'double standards' (ie: Paypal)....what are people supposed to think?
I listed some good links about Paypal and generalities in my last post; check that out for a refresher.

Reminder of the caution: Some sites will take a hit later this month....prep for fallout from various things going on right now....
New HIGHER ROI/ROA sites...just be smart....
and admins who have programs (or more than one) and open more: well, take that as a POSSIBLE sign of cash flow issues....(not always--but, usually)...

We have some decent programs out there with GOOD admins--we need to support them.
What's tough is losing THOSE kind....

I'm off for now...

2007-03-19T23:05:00.001Z

I know it's been awhile since my last post....had some health issues come up...had some tests run....still waiting on some final things....but, just wanted everyone to know why it's been 'awhile'.
Sorry....

I got quite irritated at a post I saw from an admin today....and I'll refrain from posting on it for now....as I'm too irritated. I've learned NOT to post when I feel this way; so, I'll wait. I'm waiting on some final comments from certain people anyway--so, I'll just post it all together THEN.
I will write that I only hope that admins take EVERY aspect of their programs SERIOUSLY...dealing with peoples' money IS serious....ALWAYS!
I think it's TOTALLY irresponsible to act as if some things are just 'no big deal'. I was caught off guard today and I'm quite annoyed.

On a side note about 'processors': People think Paypal has never been under the 'microscope' so to write. Not true--here's an article on how the state of Louisiana even wanted paypal to terminate services to those residents due to a 'question' of proper transmitting licensure in that state. Another interesting article as well here. The last paragraph or two of the last one is just food for thought:

Payments is a business fraught with risks. That's why financial institutions - among the most tightly regulated businesses in America - have been designated the gatekeepers to the payments system. Banks take on these risks because, among other things, they enjoy special privileges and access to the federal money trough. When the going gets tough, the government steps in and makes sure nobody loses too much money.

The same isn't true for non-banks. Too often non-banks are blinded by the allure of the money that flows through the payments system, only to be blindsided by the back-end risks. We've witnessed this already among payment card issuers. Remember the Sears Discover Card? (Discover is still around, yes, but it's no longer backed by Sears.)

Can PayPal buck the trend and survive long term in the payments space? Maybe, if it sticks with P2P payments. But as PayPal continues to creep into merchant services - facilitating transactions between online buyers of goods and services - it confronts a morass of regulatory and legal issues that is bound to stymie growth.

Just because they seem to 'get away' with NOT being licensed in ALL states--doesn't mean they aren't liable to do so or can't be held accountable if they are not. Jumping on board the 'dodging the totality of the laws issue' & 'it's just not that important concept' is NOT smart...not responsible...and certainly not prudent when you are 'handling' peoples' money.
I just want these types of issues to be looked at with all the seriousness possible at all times.
Sure, Paypal probably won't be issued any cease & desist orders...and millions will continue to do business with them...as other processors in the surf industry. Whatever floats everyones' boats...just be informed--that's all. Take things like this seriously...do your own research--make your own phone calls, etc... Don't take ANYONE'S word for things that deal with legal issues...people who make these rules and work in these offices are more than willing to answer your questions. Bottom line: take it seriously and do what it takes to abide by the rules...work on filling the loopholes, etc....then all will be better.
That actually goes for this whole business--the 'loophole' factor is HUGE. Scary when you look TOO close...(whew)...

Anyway, we heard from Solid Trust Pay--it looks as if some minor issues will keep us from having the new code for subscriptions right now. We'll use the other code and launch the matrix sooner...and just switch over when the new one is done. We've waited long enough; we, on the team are antsy to launch....many are as well. Thats the latest on that front.
Get your Solid Trust Pay account funded asap.....alertpay should be along shortly...waiting on codes from the processors has made us have the patience of Job....(enter feeble smile here)

I want to tell you all that read here: be VERY careful in the next month-2 months. There are some things 'rustling'--things I'm seeing....things I'm hearing behind some scenes...just be careful. Get your principals out asap in most sites...
It does NOT mean hit & run good sites--it just means don't be stupid & throw your mortgage payment in anywhere right now looking for that "big score"....(thats NEVER a good idea)...
The domino effect is NOT done....only the new domino effect now will be fallout from money being tied up in TSMC so long....
I also think some admins are looking to move/sell their sites....

There is going to be a 'bottoming out' coming very soon....I just know it....
PLEASE play with profit only.....and be VERY careful with any new sites...

I saw that Curt from Ponziscams posting about another Will site??? Geez...I've been so under the weather and swamped--that I missed out on finding that one....glad Curt did.
I haven't looked yet....but, Curt states Cathy's name is on it...I tell you....how many does this make for slick Willy? HOW many more before people learn??

I'm in a more negative mood about this 'industry' right now; so, you'll have to excuse me.
I'm sick of the same bullshit lies....excuses....
When people learn to NOT be blindsided by unrealistic returns....and be HAPPY with a slower--more stable return....maybe there will be less loss.
When admins stop acting like WE are SO lucky to have THEM--maybe there will be balance.
This 'industry' brings out the worst in people sometimes; so, I'm less tolerant lately of the 'mumbo-jumbo'.

I'll stop now before I get into a whole new topic that will keep me on a soapbox too long.
Many have asked me if my refund from 9 Planet No Surf came: answer: No. I'm sure it will, though...

I am liking Elite Surfing a LOT, too....am supposed to have a nice talk with Chris soon....this one is a 'keeper'....

Program I was paid by since my last post:

AS49
Coastin 88
Virtual Surf
Daily ROI
Twilight Adz

Programs I SHOULD have been paid from and was NOT:

Command Bravo
(yes, they're still good guys....but my pending should have shown as expired on March 3rd and paid 3 BIZ days later)...after emails...im's to inform them it never went to pending...nothing- until March 17th...they put it to pending and now, God willing, I'll be paid Wed. or Thurs. BUT: that will be MANY days late. I think it should have just been paid...NOT just finally moved to pending. Yes, they've done well....yes, they've been trustworthy and I still like these guys...but, I've supported them from almost day 1, too & feel fair is fair...
Yep: color me annoyed....

2007-03-11T23:14:00.000Z

General Update:

Found a new site that I've been watching ..got some good feedback from some other people I trust in this industry....and felt with the unique--non-cookie-cutter--script and background info on these admins...it was worth looking at.
Elite Surfing: give it a shot if you want to. This industry is ripe for a revamping.
I wanted to touch on a few items; many admins and surfers alike are caught up in this struggle of 'hit & running'. When we DO have good admins who have proved they ARE intent on running solid programs--we do need to stick with them, for sure. Now, does that mean throw aside what we should know by now about getting your principal out asap? NEVER!
It does mean (once you have taken out the principal and even some profit) to not run to the next big one to just make a few %age points more--knowing full well the one you run to next will have the same fate sooner or later---and lately: sooner seems to the fate we've all seen.

Admins MUST prepare for all of this from the beginning. Making members jump through change after change after launch is just not good....it lessens confidence immediately...
Remember: people have been trained due to this industry; so why do we find it odd that they trust no one? Who can blame them? Most of them have tried the 'be loyal to admins' concept...and been burned. It's like crying wolf...even when admins DESERVE some loyalty--NOW--they wont get it.
It's a shame....but, we MUST re-train our thinking away from the 'fast profit' mind-set.
Would you REALLY rather have 10 programs who pay high--but last 3 weeks? Or do you want a few low ones who plan well..and who WILL be here? It's still better than any return you'll get via your bank/savings account, etc.
We're all 'instant gratification' people to some extent; but it's THAT mentality that will NEVER get this 'industry' more stable for people who want to MAKE money moreso than LOSE it.

Up to you....be prepared for a solid site coming your way soon that WILL not promise you ridiculous returns and be gone in 4 weeks....
GET your thinking changed...and you'll be more prosperous.

Comments on 4NB and DSM under CEP now:
My feelings on these vary between the 2 sites....and I'll keep those opinions to myself.
I'll leave it at feeling like, at least, the prospective members of these 2 sites will be fine.
I hope Trevor doesn't take on more than he can handle...thats always how things turn for the worse. We all have to try & accept that Trevor and Clayton know what they can & cant handle and hope for the best.
I wont get into, again, the licensing thing with CEPT--I'll feel better, though, when all is well there.

I think you all will see some more surprises going...my last post I felt more P.Share sites would close & they did. At least they closed the moment they knew it wouldn't work...we're seeing less of those hit & run scammers...and thats one good thing.

PLANNING....and MORE planning is essential to make any site last. Think of ANYTHING that could go wrong..and have 2-3 back-up plans just in case.
Don't reach for Pluto --when you can reach the moon and make it good for everyone.

Be ready for a few more sites to 'change hands' or close....it's coming....
Be cautious out there....don't be irresponsible with your hard earned money...it's YOURS.
Keep it that way....

More coming later---

2007-03-07T23:56:00.000Z

Play Dominoes? You may not like the domino effect that may be seen in the next few days to few weeks in the profit share world...I can feel it...
DSM closing will reap a negative rippling in the profit share model.
If some don't change some things--and fast--it will get worse.
This model has some great potential...but, they are popping up everywhere.

I'll leave that alone for now..

9 Planet announcing its closure threw me for sure. Everything was fine one night...next day: BAM.
Unpredictable....and even when we know this--and try to prep---never ceases to amaze me how quickly some go down now.....you no sooner build up that site...and there goes the 'rug'.
John let everyone know as soon as he KNEW for sure...instead of playing around.

This industry needs a good kick in the arse...(and not from you know who...)...
Imagine this 'industry' being (officially) labeled: online gambling
Enough on that.....

Well...matrix things:
Once Alertpay and Solid Trust Pay get their codes all ready & fixed for the subscriptions: we'll be ready to roll. We're doing what we can to have BOTH ready upon launch; we're at their mercy...so, we'll hope for the best.

I'm in one of those 'negative' moods concerning various programs....so, I'll end on a positive note:

Paid in the past week by:

Computer Traffic
9 Planet (sigh)
Daily Roi (go James....he is AWESOME!)
Coastin 88
CEPC

2007-03-03T19:20:00.000Z

New Link to look at concerning the CEPT legalities-

I want to clarify that I, in no way, think that Trevor & Clayton are misleading anyone.
Translations of these laws can be VERY technical....I have a call in to the main person in Kentucky who CAN and WILL clarify this.....I hope to finish my conversation with him on Monday.
Trevor, in his interview with NetZen, states that until they meet certain minimal requirements--cannot BE licensed. He states that if they were to submit intent to BE licensed before they meet these financial minimums--they would be denied. This is true (and is included in the facts from the link provided here).
Where I think the mis-translation occurs (on one end or the other) is this: IF a money transmitter in Kentucky (as laws are different in each state)...has not reached this minimum requirement to SUBMIT for licensing--does that mean they can just continue transmitting until they DO reach the minimums to begin official licensing...or does this mean they have to wait to transmit money until they DO meet those minimums to even begin licensure?
I think it would be a double standard if a money transmitter were allowed to conduct business UNlicensed because they had not met the minimums required TO submit for licensure. This would enable transmitters to just stay under that minimum indefinitely...(if they wanted to & were happy to stay below this standard)....these would, then, NEVER have to submit for licensure--because they wouldn't meet the minimums to be APPROVED for licensure. Does this mean they should be able to carry on transmitting money? I don't think it works that way.
Imagine the "low lifes" who would be able to transmit money with NO consequences at all!
Sorry to tell you: state laws would never allow that possibility to exist.
The changes after October of 2006 stopped many of these 'loopholes'.....
Hopefully, we'll get the official word soon....I'm sure that Trevor and Clayton want to be totally legit as well....they are above board guys and want the best for what they have built--and will continue to build.

Desert Sky:

New shock for yesterday; I was hoping it wouldnt occur--but, when I saw the 2% day...I wondered if this would happen. I figured the next day would pick up and things would work out.
Dustin was, no doubt, upset at the disloyalty. I mean we all can join the newer ones as well--we all want to make the most we can. I just wonder why loyalty to some admins CANNOT be integrated as well. Why people are willing to risk losing good admins to make an extra buck for a few days is beyond me. It will only be a few days, too....the drawback to P. Shares is just that: the members dictate its success or failure. Now, many will whine that Dust is a failure--a scammer--etc....what a joke!
If you want to know why it failed: look in your respective mirrors. You all who ran to the share programs who were still at 10% did it. Why couldn't you 'divvy it up' some? Keep a good amount in DSM and still put some in the others? What did you THINK would happen when you pull it ALL out of a good one to put it in a newer one? Or do you just not 'get' the P. Share model?
P. Shares demand, in some form, member loyalty. The problem is: these are getting to be a 'dime a dozen'....and people just run like the wind to the next BIG NEW one who is still at 10-12%. News flash: they will ALL lower sooner than later....these are meant to be 'member based'.....stick with one or two favorite ones....they are NOT meant for hit & runners.
If thats what you want--go play in a standard modeled program and get the hell out of the P. Shares run by good people. When these, run by good people, fail: you have yourself to blame (if you ran to the next biggest one).....so knock off the accusations that some of these 'scammed'.
YOU (who run for 'mo money' every second)...are the 'scammers'...you just cut off your noses to spite your own faces. Do you pull your money out of your 401k fund daily (not that you could--and for good reason) when some other broker offers a higher return that day/week? NO! If you (and everyone else who pools their money) did this: guess what? EVERYONE hurts--
These are meant for stability....cooperation....etc....hit & runners have NO BUSINESS in these.

......I'm off: things to get done.

2007-03-02T18:58:00.000Z

Interesting reading -since so much is centered around CEPTrust legitimacy as a processor/money transmitter now- NetZen has had some good interviews/correspondence with Trevor.

KENTUCKY MODERNIZES MONEY TRANSMISSION STATUTE

26 April 2006 - The Governor of Kentucky, Ernie Fletcher, signed into law on April 24, 2006, the Kentucky Money Transmitters Act of 2006 [KMTA]. The KMTA repeals the Kentucky Sale of Checks Act and requires that all persons engaged in the business of money transmission in Kentucky be either licensed as a money transmitter, or designated as an agent of a money transmitter. The bill was drafted from the model legislation outline of the Money Transmitters Regulators Association which Kentucky is a member state. The bill was further drafted with additions from other states’ money transmitters laws based on multi-state research, conversations with other state regulators, and input from the industry. The bill had the full support of the Kentucky Bankers Association, Kentucky Credit Union League, the Kentucky Retail Federation, and the national non-bank money transmitters. The KMTA requires that all licensees maintain a net worth of $500,000. The KMTA further requires that the licensee maintain a surety bond of $500,000, which can be raised to a maximum of $5,000,000 based on the discretion of the executive director of the Kentucky Office of Financial Institutions. Licensees must maintain a pool of permissive investments equal to the amount of the outstanding payment instruments. Next, licensees and agents under the KMTA will be required to comply with the reporting and recording requirements of FinCEN. Finally, the KMTA allows a licensee to share a copy of a Kentucky report of examination with a financial institution where the licensee has its account for the purpose of providing assistance with the financial institutions' compliance with the Bank Secrecy Act. The KMTA was designated emergency legislation and therefore went into effect immediately upon the signature of Governor Fletcher on April 24, 2006. However, the KMTRA provides that current licensees under the Kentucky Sale of Checks Act have three months from the effective date of the bill to file a renewal license application. All current licenses under the Kentucky Sale of Checks Act will expire at midnight on September 30, 2006 with the new licenses being issued having an effective date of October 1, 2006. The failure to license as a money transmitter or designated as an agent of a licensee can now result in state prosecution [Class C felony]. This will assist the federal government in the prosecution of money changers, a/k/a hawalas, in this state since the KMTA will now support a prosecution under 18 U.S.C. section 1960, which was strengthened in the USA Patriot Act. A copy of the bill can be downloaded at http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/06RS/SB123/SCS1.doc. For further information, one may contact Greg A. Jennings, General Counsel, Kentucky Office of Financial Institutions, at (502) 573-3390.

2007-02-27T13:06:00.000Z

Interview with eTalk Money! Check it out....

Those of you on the conference call last night: thanks for your support and excitement!

Don't forget to register on the forum with the link we provided last night on the call & the email I sent out last night afterwards!

Thanks again: more to come soon!

2007-02-26T01:07:00.000Z

Some updates:

Things are going well with 9 Planet No Surf--I'm putting quite a bit in here. John is doing a great job. Get in this while it's hot.
Desert Sky Marketing: going great; Dust is doing very well. I hope he re-evaluates the compounding. I know we all love that--but, it can weaken a program. I'm not sure if he allows ref commission when members compound--as that would be a mistake. DSM has the potential to be #1--as well as 9 Planet No Surf.
EDIT: I'll clarify since my dear NetZen left a comment about this. This form of 'compounding' may NOT be the same as some where the cash balance is used to 'up the surfing balance'--but, it is a form that lessens fresh money coming into the system OVER TIME. Dust is a shrewd business man and keeps a good eye on things. I'm sure over time if he sees anything hurting the work he's done--he will take care of it. I wanted to clarify the difference between this form of 'compounding' and others. It is still re-cycled money to some degree--and CAN take a toll down the road--that was my point. Bottom line: Dust knows what he is doing. This is still my #1 program.

Been wondering what in the world is going on with The Ultimate Surf: I mentioned this in a post below last week; I'd be cautious about new spends...I haven't, personally, heard from Nick in 2 weeks. Rumor has it that his 'trader' is the same one who caused Jason & Stacy heartache in W. Hits, EZ sites, etc. Nick promoting Viva Surf didn't help matters either.
Coastin 88: What in the world is up? Servers could be under attack...slow surfing, coasting holidays, etc.... Many ask: is the slow down coming here? Well, upgrades certainly have slowed...cause for alarm? I don't think alarm....but, always good to WATCH closely. I know Trevor & Clayton work hard--and they are good people--but, caution is ALWAYS advised when changes are seen.
Computer-Traffic: Seems Mark has a poll going on The Safe List--I would think Mark's membership is low enough to take the time & transfer the accounts/upgrades. I think Mark looks for the road with the least amount of work (not that more work is the best route, of course....but, if a tad more work causes less stress & grief for members: do it). If Mark can make it fair for members--then whatever works, I guess.

Matrix News:

Premium spot holders first conference call: Monday, Feb 26th @ 9 pm/EST. If you did NOT get the email with this information: email me.
I've been busy---the whole team is gearing up, working hard. It's coming together.
etalk Money will have the interview conducted with me online by Tuesday, I believe. Look out for that. I was invited to do this and figured: why not? I appreciate their cooperation and professionalism.

I'm off for now....Lots to do!
As Always,

Happy Surfing

2007-02-21T02:39:00.000Z

EDIT: Email to all premium spot holders went out today (Fri., Feb 23)--if you did NOT get this email....let me know asap. Thanks...

New PS Twilight ADZ: from Maximum surfing: I'm in for a spin.
Dust's script--I think Jack & team have done a good job at Maximum surfing.

NetZen has a nice interview with Israel--from the new 4newbies Marketing...Check it out.

DSM is doing so very well; it's beginning to be my favorite site....

9 Planet No Surf is also one you need to be in....top notch!

Matrix is still coming along--premium spot holders should have gotten an email today from us--if you did NOT--please email me & let me know. (link at top of blog)
Tidbits to know for all of you will want to join when we actually launch:

You'll need a STP acct as soon as possible (until we get alertpay's code--then you'll have that option--which could be ready BY launch, too)
Matrix subscriptions are $20 per month. For this, you not ONLY get awesome data reports WITH comprehensive background checks--you get a wonderful income opportunity--much more consistent than many matrices you've ever seen.

The data you will receive ALONE--is worth much more than the $20 per month subscription. The comprehensive checks cost me $ 60-70 per analysis alone--plus, members will receive access to 3-5 of these per month.

Just to let you all know what to expect--get ready; pre-launch is right around the corner.

2007-02-20T02:14:00.000Z

Ok....small update time:

Matrix plans are coming along; pre-launch should be along shortly. Hope some of you have been seeing the splash pages in rotations lately....we still have some work to do to make it 'just right'--but, before you know it...it will be here and we hope you all LOVE what we've done as a team. I think I pointed out everyone on the team with me--Dr. Mara, Annie, and Richard.
We all bring skills & talents to this to make it all come together.
Will have more on progress later---stay tuned. Don't forget to get your Solid Trust Pay account set up to use...we will also implement Alertpay when their code is ready for subscription based services.
Premium spot holders: you should have all received the splash pages to put in surf rotations; if you have not done so...please do asap. Thanks!

Ok...other news....

New program by one of the Command men...4 Newbies Marketing: a profit share.

Looks really great; Israel steps out to bring another good one to the table.
I'm in.....you?

9 Planet No Surf is doing FANTASTIC--you WANT in this one!!!! I'm telling you...get in while the iron is HOT...and it's HOT.

My Random Downline with Leo/Drunkonlife is going well--don't forget about this great opportunity.

Jason & Stacy have launched a profit share site--I know they plan on taking some profits for the recovery efforts of getting old members paid. I wish them well...God knows they've run into many issues--but, they're still here. More than I can say for many others.....Check it out...Ez surf-n-Earn

I've been asked about some new programs:
New Dawn Rising: I know Nvus pretty well; I'd say this one has a great chance.
I haven't gotten to look closely at it--but, I have a lot of respect for Nvus. Those of you who THINK you know--may not--especially if you judge him for Compact Surfing's BS. Nvus went out his way to help me and many others....his heart is in the right place. I'll be looking at this one more closely soon...

I see Lucre Shares is doing well--Dustin's script there will add benefit for sure.
I'll be looking at that one soon as well.

Programs I was paid by last week & up to today:

Computer-Traffic
DSM
9 Planet NO Surf
AS 49
Ads-Mania (my original spend payout finish)
Command Charlie

Be careful out there...I get the feeling things will get a little 'quirky' soon...
I have some good data reports for Matrix launch.......so, if you want all the 'juicy stuff'--get ready!

Until later---
Happy Surfing

2007-02-14T16:28:00.000Z

Well, Matrix is coming along...will be sending out splash pages to all of you premium spot holders later today. Please start putting these in rotations everywhere you surf...etc.

Other news..

John from 9 Planet Reviews has his site up. 9planetnosurf; What a great job!No surfing required....John's done a great job!

Dave Cannard back at it again? Maybe so:

Davidsurf.com has all his markings--as does: http://www.11by11daily.net

Hard to believe he would come right on back in...but, I'm done being shocked at admins' audacity these days. Caution on these sites.

The Ultimate Surf: I hope Nick pulls things together. I've tried to contact him a few times...no reply. I hope he is just busy. I hear some payouts for people are late...mine are not. I just wanted to make everyone aware; I want Nick to pull it together....I'm just starting to get concerned...

Things seem strange with other stronger progs as well. I get the feeling something will go awry soon....be VERY careful.....play with profit...get any principals out ASAP.

2007-02-13T02:32:00.000Z

Update on the upcoming matrix:

'Simply amazing' is how I can describe the response I've had. I can now tell you that I have to close off the spots for $ 250. I may have 2 left when the 'dust clears'--but, I believe they are all accounted for now. Thanks to all of you who participated.
Stay tuned for more information on how we will proceed now.
Things are about ready to get jump started...so, get ready for this to blow wide open.

For those of you wonderful people who have been awaiting the launch of this matrix...get ready for some great data and a great income opp...
YOU ALL are important...and this team has worked hard to provide you with something different than 'just another matrix'...
We are starting off with Solid Trust Pay as a processor for the matrix...we will be implementing alertpay--as soon as their subscription based service is ready to go. We would love to offer more--but, the processor needs to offer this subscription based code...few do. We will offer more if/when they become available. If you don't have a Solid Trust Pay acct--I'd suggest you get one soon if you want to participate in this right away-

Other news....

Net Profits Group forum and My Random Downline survived their first attack...I missed that forum! If you haven't visited here yet....or signed up for My Random Downline: you're missing something really great.

It appears that Dave Cannard is back with: davidsurf.com-- I have just begun to dig on this...it's on a shared server with 455 other sites...registrant's old domain name is a David Lee....this may NOT be Cannard's....it has those same clip art pictures from DnDave's...

IF this IS Cannard's....do NOT be goofy enough to put a dime in here....it infuriates me that admins can rip people off and come back weeks/months later and try again....with NO mention of remedying the loss they propelled on others....DISGUSTING!!!!!

Denali Surf gets a new look--Check it out--this one is worth looking at.

Seems the XLO database was re-sent to Bob for review...I was gone over the weekend for my sister's wedding...so, I missed all the details on that one....I just hope XLO can come back for all the members who miss it.

DailyROI is a site you should be getting involved in; they seem to be doing very well. James is one heck of a guy...Mike, although we've had our share of nasties, is a talented programmer and can keep the site safe. This ons IS worth a look.

DSM is doing awesome...I love this site...Dust is doing an awesome job!

Command Charlie had some script issues with earnings showing; now if you look under "ammo packs"--you'll see your packs and all earnings under "ROI"-- The Command group seem to be doing very well....I am loving this one and Bravo.

Paid last week by:

Computer-Traffic
Coastin 88
CEPC
AS49
DSM
Virtual Surf
Trickle Down Cash
Ultimate Surf

I'm off for now...be watching for the matrix launch....GET READY: it's COMING!!!

2007-02-09T04:30:00.000Z

Quick Update:

I am out of town for my sister's wedding...so, please understand if I don't get back to you in email within minutes....

Other news:
Jake, on ASA, announced on his broadcast that the matrix has launched...he was mistaken. We are not even in pre-launch yet...but, we are getting there as soon as we can.
I offered those premium spots....it's going well.
You all have a little more time to get in on this---let me know as soon as possible.
Jake is happy for me about this matrix...and he is excited himself--so, he jumped the gun announcing this. I didn't even know he was doing this....
Just wanted you all to know it has NOT launched yet....you all will know HERE when we are there.

To clear up ANY rumors....this matrix team is being run by 4 of us who were screwed over by Ms. Stormy....we wanted to fulfill that dream of what I wanted to do there.
This has NOTHING to DO with Sandra Gant...I wouldn't have anything to do with her...other than to continue in working with a few others on nailing her.

I refused to allow HER to ruin what I wanted to do in my matrix at TN...why should HER pulling her crap have any bearing on this dream being realized? It won't.
This team is dedicated to bringing you a solid income opportunity.

GET EXCITED!!! It's coming !!

2007-02-04T23:33:00.000Z

Once again--thanks for the tremendous number of you that emailed me for info on my upcoming matrix. Those of you who have emailed--have gotten the info on how to secure your position--if you wanted in on the 'early special'...
The plan for this is really great; I'm very excited to provide you with great intel...and a chance to earn a residual income much easier than any matrix I've EVER seen.

Those of you who didn't email...and would like the info...the 'early positions' are available for a short time. We, the wonderful team doing this, want to place these key positions by late next week; so, if you want IN this placement...email me soon.

Now for my opinion on Mike & Mr. Bell's new: Ads Mania:

I have to tell you....when the email came out that this was launching--I was exhausted and at that moment--I was excited that Mike, the wonderful programmer, was 'back'.
When I woke up the next morning, all my frustration at how fast Mike let Manic die was prevalent again. Then, I began thinking of how fast he seemed to get over his 'tiredness of running a site'. It was TOO fast....(IMO)...
Now, here's the possibilities:

Mike felt bad for letting Manic go and wanted to combine with George Bell to bring something back for members--
Mike wanted to save some big bucks by ripping our referrals & credits from us--
Both 1 & 2--

Now....IF # 1 was the reason-he could have brought Manic back...it's STILL up. I think it would have made ALL of us feel MUCH better knowing we just went through a small period of inactivity and then we were back earning...WITH our accounts in tact. Manic members worked HARD, in most cases, to build our accounts...& we had the proverbial 'rug pulled'...
I don't appreciate working on promoting Mike...Manic Ads...my account--only to have it ripped away.
Was Mike running low on funds.....? We won't know. It begs the question, though, as to why he would take this particular path--knowing what it would look like. I had hoped we, as members, meant more. But, in this industry...we know this doesn't hold true in most programs.
Mike DID rebound with Ads Mania--people have a chance to earn again--he did rebate 90% of members (or close to that #)....which is more than many admins have done.
I just don't like the feel that the Manic closure was pre-planned to some degree. Those are MY thoughts: right or wrong. I still think Mike is a talented programmer...and CAN run a great program. I just wish it would have been Manic.

Next: My Daily Percentages:

This one has bugged me for a whole day when I learned who this admin is. Before I tell you who it is...I want to be fair and post some things as I know them now; if I were to JUST tell you NOW...some of you who would know this former program will be upset and won't digest the rest of what I have to post.
When I found out who this admin is....I was upset--upset that he was back--upset that he didn't tell anyone who he is (in his program now--that is)...
This is a man who left his old program high & dry...no email after a certain point...just done. I think he tried as best he could (I want to believe this anyway)...and things went awry and he let it die out. I lost money here--as did many others.
He is now back with MDP. Now, he went to some good admins for help; they are giving it to him...and they are also 'watching over the funds'...just in case.
I feel somewhat better that this is being watched--as the admins he went to for help--know all about his former prog and the trouble involved. I think a condition of them helping was that the program funds are watched.....just in case. We all know trust & honesty is lacking in this industry--so, it's best to err on the side of caution.
MDP seems to be going fairly well....so, if you ARE in this one...and you feel angry when you know who this is.....understand your funds are as safe as they can be.
Maybe this admin truly feels bad for the last failure & he wants to do it right this time. I, for one, do NOT agree with any former admin coming back without COMING CLEAN as to who s/he is...and making some attempt to make amends.
Now--who is it?
The admin for MDP is the former admin for GSSGlobal: those of you around then...know.
This was the one where people involved in this sought me out (somewhat) for me to check the servers, etc. The servers were wonderful...but, the admin wouldn't reveal himself to me.
He was keen on privacy---(which is fine by itself)---but, other things transpired that bothered me...and I wound up not promoting it anymore.
Once I posted a caution on GSS....they had just begun slowing down on payouts sporadically. It was maybe 3-4 weeks later--that it just died. Emails stopped....GSS forum was devoid of any answers....etc....

The choice for you MDP members is yours to make. I've heard from reliable sources that the program funds are being watched....so, that may make you feel more comfy here.
Maybe this admin wants to make things right this time...but, I honestly do not think that's possible while you don't reveal who you are...and don't attempt to remedy GSS Global losses.
I couldn't--in good conscience--keep this secret once I knew. I just can't.
I would feel horrible IF something happened here, too...and I would know I 'knew'..and didn't post it.
Now, you all know and can join or not join based on the facts. Making informed decisions is essential....

My conversation, via phone, with Andy, former XLO admin:

Andy IS irritated at the blame being laid at his door. I asked him if he regrets selling at all & he said 'no'--that he's glad to be rid of the BS that comes with this.
He does feel bad for members--and he feels, as do we, that XLO will probably never resurrect itself. He told me XLO was up to date--and ready to go. Database was fine....and he feels that's all that was really wanted from this purchase. The domains haven't even been transferred yet--and that takes an email only to get done.
Bob's a busy guy--maybe he just hasn't had time to get to it....but, XLO members do feel a loss. We feel ignored--we feel slighted.
I hope XLO does get to continue; I just don't see it happening.
My talk with Andy was long and thorough. Even though I wish Andy had kept XLO his--he feels he did what was best for him...and none of us have the right to question that.
Do many wish he had sold to someone else? Probably.....
Are some happy with who he sold to? Probably..
Bottom line: Can't please everyone....
I CAN feel safe in posting that I doubt ANYONE who was an XLO member is happy with the thought that XLO will NOT return in some capacity.
The ONLY thing predictable in this industry is its UNpredictability.

Programs I was paid from in the last week:

The Ultimate Surf
Computer-Traffic
Desert Sky Marketing
Command Bravo
Command Charlie
Virtual Surf
Denali Surf
Coastin 88
CepCoast
Eleven-12adsurf
Acai Plus (ref commission check in the mail)

As Always,

Happy Surfing
~~ Caio~~

2007-02-01T01:25:00.000Z

EDIT: I have been OVERWHELMED at the emails of support I received just today on my upcoming matrix launch....Thank you all so much. I will work hard to provide you with the best information...
For those who wanted the information on the 'incentive offer'--I will respond by mid -day tomorrow.

My Random Downline launched; doing very well. I LOVE the forum:

Net Profits Group Forum...you all have to go to this forum.....get in My Random Downline....and participate in a great way to share sites and info.

I am impressed with Leo (Drunk On Life) & Jason's work here...
If you signed up for MRD--get cracking!

OK, here's a program I thought I'd NEVER list on my blog: Daily Roi:

Many of you know what crap I went through with the former sole admin, Mike.
I have gotten to know the NEW and IMPROVED admin, James Miranda--very well. I have been NOTHING BUT impressed with the genuine and gentle nature of this man. He's brought me to (nice) tears a few times; he's listened & been there for me quite a bit. I still wonder what brought us to get more acquainted (as I'm not in dailyroi)...but, I'm happy about the fact that I have gotten to know him well...and will continue to do so.
I'm impressed with him....and members of dailyroi: I hope you all know what a wonderful admin this is.

Some info on Speed-gold-: I ran a basic search first on this one. The whois address does not exist. The name listed DOES exist--just not in Louisiana.

The phone number on this one, when traced, leads back to a former admin who ran a program well for awhile....then ran into many problems and ended the program. People DID lose a bunch here. NOW: here's what I found out when I pm'd the admin of Speed-gold: Jimmy.
I kept hearing how Jimmy was a nice guy...so, I figured I'd approach HIM with this & see what he said. I always try to go TO the admin when things like this occur (unless, of course, it's one of those Charlie or Willy sites)...
Jimmy told me that the whois is the PREVIOUS owner's info who ran a hyip that closed quickly (supposedly few to no people lost in that one)....
Jimmy tells me he has been fighting some BIG DDOS attacks....and the server is done.
I hope things work out....I just always worry about these REALLY high ROI sites--fairly instant/daily payouts, etc....
I wanted to make this BASIC info available....I will write that Jimmy was very quick to answer my pm's and ask me for advice on new servers, etc.

Be ready for my matrix: MrsveeSays to open soon. If you want more information AND/OR the chance to get in 'early' for some 'added benefit'....email me asap.

Limited availability!

I'm off.....still not feeling 'up to par'--

~~Caio~~

2007-01-28T22:14:00.000Z

Sorry if I've been slower getting to pm's and emails....been 'under the weather'....

I wanted to touch on a couple of things this week:

EDIT:
Seems Mike REALLY HAS had enough of running a surf site. He HAD to know 'things would come up' that wouldnt go perfectly...it hasnt even been a full business day and he is caving. I feel cheated....cheated from a unique, wonderful program that WOULD have gone all the way to the top. I don't get how Mike can throw away all of that hard & productive work -making what would have been the 'best surf out there'...
He could have worked this out with Egold...this is him really being tired of doing it. I wish he would have asked for help...delegated some of the responsibility--ANYTHING to keep this wonderful program alive. Not to be crude; but, I feel like I've had 4 awesome hours of foreplay only to be told the intercourse can't happen now...
It's a damn shame...I had high hopes for this one; and I KNOW Mike had the ability and foresight to make this one TRULY stable. Add in the level of programming ability Mike has with his great plans....and cooperative nature with his members...and this would have been number one. Maybe someday, he'll bring it back....we can hope...
We all have to do what we have to do.....so, I wish Mike the best.
(side note: I was all ready paid my rebate in full. Thanks, Mike!)

Progression on Ms. Gant is continuing--please don't think we have forgotten it. I've even found some new info on past things--so, it 'coming along'...this will NOT be let go. Rest assured on that front....I don't care how LONG it takes...I will not let go of holding her accountable in some fashion.

The dream Sandra had started with my matrix based on my former surf tutor program will be realized. I will not allow HER failure to be mine. This matrix will be alive & very soon. A top notch MLM producer that created this-- is working with me to bring this to life...and life it will have. You will not only have the ability to REALLY earn a residual income quickly...but, you will have the data reports that many of you liked in my old program. Background checks and as thorough a dig that is possible will be done on all progs chosen for the month. It's costly to do so....but, it's vital to minimize the risks as much as possible. It isn't a 'sure thing'---seeing as how I did a full one on Sandra and it still didn't change the outcome. Running every check in the world cannot predict a person's nature as to whether they can change and become pond scum by stealing from us. It can, however, alert us to any dealings in their respective pasts to indicate their honesty factor right from the beginning IF their goal is to take off soon.

Caution again on 24DP "reloaded"....do NOT buy this BS....since he couldn't raise enough to give refunds BEFORE people had to re-upgrade...that gives you a rough idea of his financial standing. You all might get paid awhile on these new upgades...but, add in all you've lost in the other 4-5 you may have joined & lost in...and you have MAJOR deficits right off the bat. He's had ample time to raise funds to, at least, refund SOME people before they have to upgrade again....please throw away your rose colored/happy-happy-joy-joy/hopeful glasses here. Stand up & refuse the kool-aid; do NOT become the NEW suckers in this one....!

Blue Heaven Emails: This asshole is still accepting upgrades--he sends out emails pretending that he's refunded people...must be invisible money....no one has seen any! DO NOT fall for Ben's lies.....I'll be doing a comprehensive check in him soon...will be interesting to see what skeletons that asswipe has in his closet.

I started a comparison of a new prog (going well right now)....to another older one...similarities are scary....but, I'm not positive yet....will find more as soon as possible so you can be informed.

I have to comment on what I've heard on how a certain person was treated in the Tri Star camp. Most know that Brookie & I have had our differences--but, I was very upset at the way I heard she was treated by Todd at SSM. There ARE always 2 sides to the story and this is based on ONE SIDE ONLY. I hope if there are any hard feelings between these 2--that it can be remedied. Since I have been alerted to the OTHER side of this--I will refrain from thinking I know the whole story; really none of my business anyway--people tend to share what's going on in areas of the industry...& I just felt sensitive that Brookie FELT hurt...and I hope that since she and Todd want the best for Bob's programs--they can get along.

Progs I have been paid from recently:

Computer-Traffic: paid in one hour--
The Ultimate Surf: right on time, Nick!
AS49: Last week; small referral commission payout
Coastin 88
DSM

Progs I am liking and see becoming more stable :

Computer-Traffic
The Ultimate Surf
NEW Virtual Surf
Command Bravo
DSM
Coastin 88
Manic Ads (if Mike finds his resolve again & realizes his potential)

Ok; I'm worn out...have things to get done...be sure to check out & d/l the DD Toolbar; it's a must have.

Until next time:

Happy Surfing
~~Caio~~

2007-01-24T02:38:00.000Z

Exciting New Programs:

Computer-Traffic: Nice site!! 4% /40 days. You can cash out weekly to the processor of your choice.
We also offer 500 credits to sign up and upgraded members can earn 2 credits for each site viewed.
There are no silly rules like 50/50 here. The plan is basic. You upgrade, you surf, you get paid. You request payouts on Friday, I'll try to pay you by Saturday. Sometimes my members get lucky and get paid within hours.
Check out Net Zen's blog for a post on Mark and the site in general.

NEW Virtual Surf: Mordk has decided to give 'adminship' a try here & I'm in. I have faith in her ability and certainly her dedication to people. Some of you know her as the one you went to for help in the now defunct 13DP. I recently saw posts where some idiots just ASSume that because she played this role...surely this means she was a part of some elaborate scam plan....well, I'll actually bite my hand here from typing exactly what I think of small minded people such as these. She is just as torn as the members--she lost as well. Believe it or not....and if you don't: fine....don't join. I like the "XLO" feel here....2% /75 days...daily payouts with Egold or STP. The site is 'different'...what a nice layout. You'll be impressed. Kris, the former admin of Virtual Surf is still the programmer--and what a fine job he has done. You'll remember that Kris refunded all members from his old surf.

Command Charlie:

New program from the Command Center....only open to current Bravo or Surf members.10%/13 days....use the same email for this as you do for C. Bravo & C. Surf so the admins can verify your current membership. This one is worth a look.

Check the last post for other exciting programs and opportunities.

Now for the part where I go over the not so great 'happenings':

24 Daily Pro: People....please be cautious! We all want to believe--hope--but, be REALISTIC!! Marshall a.k.a Will, has had more sequels than a Nightmare on Elm Street--and we KNOW how THOSE ended....(ok, I know...humor...but you get my drift). Leo-a.k.a-Drunk On Life sums it up well, too. I would add BMW Surf to that long list he hasof "Will's" failed sites. The fact that you have to join the new one to get money WAY PAST due just takes the cake...NOW....miracles DO happen....so, if he can find a way to pay all the old debt...then maybe we can be hopeful. The old saying (paraphrased): screw me once--shame on you; screw me twice--shame on me, holds true. BE CAREFUL. If Ms. Gant threw herself back in the ring...trust me, she would have to pay every dime before I'd even acknowledge her. Even then....I would find it hard almost impossible to trust again. I may be finding the realism in this industry and understanding that few give a crap about integrity like I do...but, that doesn't mean I ever have to trust them again. If people have the character to 'take from you all once'---odds are---under pressure they could again. So, if they've done it MORE THAN ONCE---you do the Math.
5050Club: Well, seems like Charlie's MO finally came full circle...surprise? It shouldn't be. If you need to understand...re-read point # 1 above.
125Surf/150ProfitSurf: Well, seems the 150ProfitSurf is a tad irritated at my insistence that SHE (Cathy a.k.a Adil) is related somehow to the admin from 125surf (Nate)...I posted on 2 forums the domain record showing this. The admin from 150profit surf came on TSL and stated the domain names are 'wrong'....and that SHE is not a SHE. When the 150profitsurf first came online and posted on ASA (Adil) --I mentioned that with the shared hosting (that she offered, by the way)...she had porn sites all over--which she did remove. It was obvious (by her own admission) that SHE was Adil.....now all of a sudden she is not. I don't recall any transfer of ownership being posted--but, maybe I missed it-- Here are the domain records for 125surf & 150profit surf:
Domain name: 125SURF.COM

Administrative Contact:
Qazalbash, Nadeem Nate_4000@yahoo.com
6025 Cork County
Galloway, OH 43119
US

Domain name: 150PROFITSURF.CO

Administrative Contact:
Qazalbash, Cathy adil_44@yahoo.com
6025 cork county dr.
ohio, OH 43119
US

Once again...please be cautious of these new HIGH roi programs who offer instant payouts. These are total and complete games...and statistically: they are scams. They are dropping like flies as I write........
Ones I've been looking closer at and hope to have some stronger facts on:

Weekly-Traffic
Exotic Surf Pro

Payouts this week so far......

Manic Ads: always fast--super site!
Command Bravo--the boys are back!
DSM: Paid in one day--way to go!
AS49: Paid in 3 days--fastest reg payout yet!

Enough for now......

Happy Surfing
~~Caio~~

2007-01-19T13:34:00.000Z

I wanted to share with all of you that Bob & I both have buried the hostility, at least.
The issue is now over....and I would ask that all of you who have discussed the odds that Bob & I were at...now stop. It won't help anything...and I need to let go of all hostility. It serves no purpose.
I have 'mutated' some since this ordeal with Sandra; my opinions on what is & can be real in this industry are adapting to the ACTUAL reality.
I want you all to know that holding Sandra Gant accountable is of utmost importance to me. She must know that she can't just walk away leaving people to suffer financial &/or personal losses.
She made herself out to be 'different'....so, therefore I will not treat her as any 'regular' admin who decides to pull this shit. I was an integral part in bringing many of you to TN; therefore, I feel a responsibility to do what I can to hold her accountable.

Now, on to 'other' things:

Affiliate Biz by Manic-Ads:
This is a very powerful multi-level membership based affiliate program featuring exclusive ebooks and software that can help you make even more money online. E-Gold is the only payment processor and all commissions are paid automatically and instantly to your E-Gold account every time someone joins under you. Since our program is a membership program. All members must pay the monthly $10.00 membership fee to retain access to the exclusive features.

Featuring spillover. Once a sponsor has his/her first level full, all other referring members will be spilled over to their downline.

Level 1 10 = 10 members
Level 2 10x10 = 100 members
Level 3 10x10x10 = 1000 members
Level 4 10x10x10x10 = 10000 members
Level 5 10x10x10x10x10 = 100000 members

Commission Structure:
Level 1: 25%
Level 2: 10%
Level 3: 15%
Level 4: 20%
Level 5: 30%

Leo..a.k.a. Drunk On Life started a referral co-op/link exchange called My Random Downline. I think it's a wonderful and unique idea. Here are the FAQ's right from the site:

My Random Downline Frequently Asked Questions

How My Random Downline Works:

My Random Downline is basically a referral co-op or link exchange. As a Subscribed Member, you can add up to 5 referral links into the database. Every time a page is refreshed, a random referral link is attached to the banners shown. Members join sites through the database, other members reciprocate and people make money from the random referrals. You can advertise programs such as Paid to Surf, affiliate products (Clickbank), advertise a blog or service, or promote a network marketing site. Don't see your program listed? No problem! You can always submit a request to add a program anytime. The Member BackOffice of this site will show how many times your banner ad with your referral link was shown as well as how many times it was clicked. You can add and remove links as often as you like. Every program can have up to 2 banner ads: 468x60 and 125x125.

You might ask where the value would be if everyone is promoting the same site. Well, there is no value and there would be no value if you bought an ad for the same site on a forum or elsewhere. Most members will realize this and choose some of the lesser known programs out there to maximize their profit potential. Some will give Clickbank a go and others will simply want to promote their website/blog. There will be strategy behind how you choose your referral links.

The banners ads with random referral links will appear in various places on MyRandDownline.com, as well as our future forum and monitoring site.

Check out Brian Page's site for another very nice idea; I'll be checking this out soon.

Awesome new toolbar (and NO spyware attached)...this gives a basic 'looksie' at the obvious things with programs and is called simply enough The DD Toolbar. (does work for IE & Firefox)

Progs I am liking very much:

Manic Ads: Paid for the 3rd time today...I think Mike has great plans and is doing a wonderful job creating something diverse and stable.
Coastin 88: Always paid within hours of request--as long as the CEPTrust issue can reach total legality--I'll feel even better.
Command Bravo: They are back and doing very well. Give these guys a chance! I was paid after they first came back, and I believe my 2nd one is still pending--havent checked today, though.
Desert Sky: Dust is doing well since re-launch. I think you'll be happy here, too.
The Ultimate Surf: Nick continues to build stability..this one is a keeper for awhile.
Denali Surf: Ryan does a nice job!
AS49: I am still enjoying this one...still paid every 8-9 days...

Words of Caution:

I am seeing some more hit & run sites lately...and there are some now who have been around maybe 2 weeks and are all ready showing signs of late payouts:
I cannot stress ENOUGH that when a program offers REALLY goofy returns AND instant payouts...odds are it's a hit & run site, ok??
Please do NOT be silly with these and continue to put ALL your funds right back in for that 'one last shot'....usually it's that 'one last time' that winds up being the time you get your ass bit.
ALWAYS take your seed out IMMEDIATELY. I do this with EVERY site...I don't care how much I like it, how good the data looks, how much I talk to the admin...I ALWAYS take the seed out FIRST. Just do it...and if you want to 'gamble'--please do it with the profits ONLY.
It's a good idea to take out MOST of the profit the first time as well...and let it build gradually.....IF you think it's a site that will NOT hit & run to begin with.

That's about it for now...I'm looking at some 'things' and am starting to see a link between many people & I don't like the secrecy that there appears to be...former (not so great) admins coming back...possibly teaming up with others....will post more when the facts are solid.

Until then---

Happy Surfing
~~Caio~~

2007-01-15T21:32:00.000Z

Ok....back from my weekend at my parents...and I will now clarify ONCE and for ALL some misconceptions. Everyone READ ACCURATELY AND COMPLETELY...INSTEAD OF POSTING IN PLACES HOW SOME OF US SPECULATE WITH NO FACTS.
Everything I have EVER posted about Bob Krimm IS based on FACT...so, writing how some of us bloggers only speculate right BELOW where we post facts is bogus.

I was away long enough to realize why this industry SUCKS!! My weekend was backstabbing free, no drama...no lies...why? Because I stayed off of forums...I come back to pathetic posts where people CLAIM what I've posted in other places...and one email where more misconceptions are brewed. It's done...this is the LAST time I will post on Bob Krimm...I'm so sick of his name I could puke anyway...

Before I begin--let me preface this with my overall disgust at this whole industry since Sandra Gant proclaimed her 'quest' for screwing people over.
I am definitely more negative than usual...BUT, I don't think thats all bad--because it will not allow me to ever lose my objectivity again.
Why is it that Krimm followers can give advice about how I was wrong to take what Sandra said at face value...yet thats exactly what they do with Bob...not easy, is it???
EVERY popular program that has EVER been out there has had it naysayers...and they all get blasted from the ones who believe in a program.
WE all have done it....so, don't jump on your damn high horses too much when someone ELSE does it...OR when its done about an admin you DO or do NOT like.
I realized that since I bought Sandra's bullshit...hook, line, & sinker...then I have no right to wonder why others do it with other admins.
I don't give a rats ass what you all do...you want Bob? There he is...go be with him.
At least he pays...I don't care anymore how he makes his money...he IS making it....so GO!
You have a right to be IN his progs...I have the right to NOT be...obviously, I'm not some ref whore...or I'd be on the Krimm chariot like many of you.

For the record, here are the beefs I had with Bob...these are the ONLY ones...

1) He lied about his application for his processor being pending and awaiting approval in January--it was a LIE. Period. All you have to do is call the agent in Michigan who processes them and request the list (if its not now available online)....Bob wasn't there!!!!
I only wonder if some of us hated bloggers did NOT dig on this...would he have moved at all? Or would he have put members monies at risk of a cease & desist??? I don't know...& don't care now.

2) His unprofessional and immature video bashing me when I made it clear to Brookie that the stupid bankruptcy thing would never be shared. How many freaking times do I have to post this?? I ran into it in a comprehensive check...I didn't care...no one cares...
Bob made himself the martyr by acting like Big. Bad Vee was after him when all he does is try to be good to people....(whaaaaaaaa)....
I was in 2 of his progs...and liked them...it was all blown way out of proportion...
Bob either likes to portray himself as the victim from all of us 'meanies'...or the big savior..
you know what?? GO...be whoever you want, Bob....I don't CARE!!!

3) The way he let Jake take the fall for the Terry incident. BOB gave Jake that info...divulged the info....yet, he gave TERRY the benefit of the doubt over those damn screenshots..NOT Jake--his friend. Thats what set me off that one night on ASA...I heard Jake's voice...all bummed...and Sandra's disloyalty wasn't too dim in my mind..and I got angry...
I told Jake to tell everyone that Bob told him...why was he taking the fall?? I guess Jake just didn't want to lash BACK out at Bob..like Bob did him.

4) I NEVER, EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR called Bob a scammer....not ONCE!!!!
I have made THAT clear as well, yet its ignored. I do NOT think he is one...I think he wants these progs to be HUGE...I think he wants to make sure what happened to his wife doesn't happen to anyone else...I DO think Bob wants to build something good for his members...
there hasn't been ONE damn email or post where someone who cares for me AND is in Bobs programs hasn't asked me: should I leave Bobs programs?? and I've said YES...I ALWAYS tell them to stay IN...not to be silly and let MY dislike for Bob stand in the way of them --or anyone--making money....If I thought Bob was a scam artist (like Sandra)...I would tell them to RUN. Have I ever?????????????????? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEVER....and I'm sick & damn tired of people twisting what I post and making it out like I ever called him that...or said he is a ponzi..

5) Ponzi...I have NEVER said he is one now...I think Bob has made sure he isn't...

ALL of this is moot anyway....because I started this digging on his processor...(and please keep in mind..Bobs PROGS have NEVER been questioned by me...ONLY his processor)...

I actually believed admins COULD be real...genuine...trustworthy...etc...
That has ALL changed now...so, I have a different feeling toward the whole Bob Krimm deal.
I will keep a safe distance from all admins...if they need me; I'll be there to help. But, if & when I see those red flags...and I hear a BS story..I will post that I think it's BS...no more 'wanting to believe in Sam, Dick, Harry, or Sally...to the point where I get logic muddled'. I now will go into these conversations with the knowledge that I will probably be getting a small-medium sized song & dance...

Since I don't think any of them can be trusted for too long....then how can I say anything against Bob--because of a few dishonest moments?? God knows Sandra built up to MONTHS of lies...

If I cant trust someone I spoke to on the phone 3-5x a day for 6 months...I cant trust any of them for too long...or with too much.
I think Bob has NO intention of scamming....now I wonder how long Sandra had her plan TO do this?? I am confused...angry...and full of distrust and sickened by the lack of loyalty...
I have learned there is no place for it....you all just want to make money...so, go do it.

Just don't be naive like I was and take EVERYTHING any admin says at face value (like they'll be here forEVER.....that cant happen...even if they bust it TRYING)...

You all who bitched & moaned about my trust in HER...you're doing the same thing.
So, when you take the moat out of YOUR eye...then come pick my splinter out...
I'm sick of the double standards....backstabbing...
I could be a total bitch and out of my dislike for Bob all these months...I could be a lame ass and yell: Bobs a ponzi...bob's a scammer...but, I never did...because I didn't believe that.

I posted some facts...clear ones...easily verified for anyone who cares about looking up something on your own...NOT speculation...FACT. If you all don't care...why should I?
I see things differently now...
I will concentrate on catching the former scammer sons of bitches from coming back and screwing you all...and I will be able (if I'm looking at it) to catch admins who plan on hitting & running.
I ran a full check on Sandra....just to make SURE I wasn't fooling myself....(see, I didn't just do it on Bob...I did it on HER, too)....
It's obvious some of these admins change...get greedy....go hormonal...or whatever their lame reasoning is for screwing us over.
Don't forget my motives ARE to protect...I didn't want Bobs processor to be illegal and then he gets a cease & desist ordered...then where would all your monies have been?? In the same damn place as 12DP monies.
The bloggers who seem to be 'causing trouble'--some of us are the very ones naive' enough to think people actually CARE about ANYTHING other than making money.
Some say: thats what we're here for....maybe they're right.
If thats what they want....fine. I don't care...
I've lost my desire to carry the integrity torch....my fire is gone for that.
I'll do what I do....try to help those who want it....
Many want to only point out my failures....no one ever remembers the HUNDREDS I've called correctly...it's more fun to notice the bad...its human nature.
Jake on ASA knows...he knows how many I pegged correct when I was picking premiums there eons ago...
See...no one knows those...and thats ok. Anyone can have good records when they have just started...or pick the best ones...(even 4 months ago...anyone could tell by logic that Bob would boom...)....
Try doing this for 16-18 months...& we'll see how high & mighty you are then...

My energy is being spent on a plan to nail Sandra Gant's ass to the wall...

She took on the wrong person...I spent time with my dad this weekend (the one who is good friends with not only US Marshalls--but, US DEPT of Justice people...and a couple of secret service agents--as well as HUNDREDSSSSSSSSS of REAL advertising gurus)...
So, the visit yielded 4 things:

1) splendid ideas on how to nail Sandra
2) splendid ideas on how to make MY site more legit than any before (cant give that secret away just yet....but, its my dad's contacts that will make this a dream)...
3) time with my wonderful mom & dad
4) time with my sister who has her bridal shower...(upcoming wedding on Feb 10th)..

I want you all to know that I am more negative and angry...so, I'll apologize in advance.
I felt better being away over the weekend...I realized how caught up I get in this craziness...and I'm sorry for my emotions getting in the way sometimes. I'm doing something about it...
I feel responsible for anyone I brought to TN...the hurt any of you are going through...much less money lost. I'm sorry....I am building a site that will have TRUE outside sources...
this is different than what you're used to.....(as far as outside revenue)...so, you'll see soon.

And to Mr. Krimm: "Bob...I only cared about your processor as well...I cared when Jake was hurting....so, I'm sorry for the unprofessional remark on ASA...that's not like me...so, I'm sorry.
I DO NOT think you're a scammer...I hate that all of this has gone crazy.
Since I dont think you want your members hurt (like Sandra did to all of us)...
I guess I have no reason to post anything else about you...everyone heard my beefs...and they are OVER now...
I do wish you and your progs the best...the industry needs them..."

The Krimm comments, for me, are done......unless something new falls in my lap..I'm done with the same crap over & over. The nasty shit is eating me up...Sandra's shit is enough for me to deal with...I just dont care anymore about what he's doing...not doing.....who's in...out...
unless he's doing something REALLY bad....I dont want to know, hear, see...anything else.

I DON'T CARE

I'm done with most things-------
~~caio~~

2007-01-13T18:57:00.000Z

quick post to let you all know I will leaving for my moms in the next hr. My sister's bridal shower is tomorrow...so, I'll be driving all day today....
If I dont get to emails...etc for a day or two...you'll know why...be back Monday...

I need away from all the madness anyway...

2007-01-10T14:19:00.000Z

ok...time to update on MANY things: Long one...but, worth reading (IMHO):

I can't seem to shake the negative feelings I have about this industry as a whole--and, that's probably a good thing. I was told by someone last night that I have too much 'estrogen' (lol)...
well, yeah...we females will have that tendency...(thank god)...
It's funny...I was talking to Leo (Drunkonlife) the other night and mentioned that same thing...people tell me to 'let things go'...and I answer: I guess it's the 'woman thing' that makes me more emotional at times. There IS no room for being a 'softy' (of course my 'softy' side is geared toward the people...and feeling despair for them when they lose--especially if it's due to me--)--
There is no room for trust--relationships w/ admins--false honesty--belief that integrity resides in this industry--or any other 'happy, happy, joy, joy' feelings.
I was told to get back that tough skin I possessed months ago--before "Stormy" sabotaged my trust and belief that admins in this industry COULD be 'good' somehow.
I agree that my 'tough' nature must return full throttle--and it shall. I'm back to being 'me'--whether some like it or not: I will call it as I see it--and if I do: I have the proof: period.
Take it--leave it: I don't care. If you don't like it...move on and read some happy--happy--joy--joy BS somewhere else; where fantasies thrive and realism is ignored.
I'm not meaning that there aren't good people in this industry--there are. There are 'good' admins (course...'good' is a relative term...a truly UNdefined word)...
there are certainly good surfers....people like the rest of us...just looking for a way to earn some extra money...pay the bills and MAYBE have something left over to treat our families to something nice.
My convo last night with a friend had us relaying how 'simpler' things were 'back in the good times'--then we realized: there really werent 'good times'--it was just different.
We both asked ourselves: " why do we do this?" "are we really helping?" " is it worth the 'feelings' we ALL have? (Once again...back to the misconception that most of us CAN keep some type of feeling out)...
I ask myself that question daily anymore--I am working on ways to get over my utter contempt for many people/admins/scams/lies/deceit/dishonesty/lack of integrity.
If I am to stay in this rat-race, I WILL have to accept things as they are--and quit fooling myself in thinking that there ARE TRULY honest and altruistic admins.
They all, in one way or another, make decisions based on less than honest intentions. This industry has a way of 'softening' the lines of where character and deceit lie.
It 'softens' the conscience into justifying certain areas. The thought process of: 'the end justifies the means' comes to mind.
I read a post from someone I used to trust and care for that stated this:(paraphrased) "When people constantly question an admin after their hard work--I don't blame certain admins for closing up shop and TAKING OFF WITH FUNDS".
Let me explain something: there is NEVER a reason or justification to 'run off with funds'...
That's an example of how this industry allows people to justify bullshit actions.
I think this happens to MANY admins (who WERE honest to begin with)...they work hard to make members happy...then something legit DOES happen to throw a curve in the plans..
Admins work harder to rectify the situations...people begin whining & complaining (which god knows they can do)....admins work harder...people whine some more...and before you know it: admins justify their hard work for no gratitude and figure: "screw them all--I'll just take whats mine"...I bet this happens more than we think. (enter Dave Cannard theory #1A)

Now, many of you may have heard that I plan on opening up a site. Yes, it's a risk--but, I will vow to always be honest IF things arise that will throw a curve in my plans.
There is a wonderful team of people ready to go...(many of us screwed over by TN)...since, "Stormy" obviously didnt think our ideas and brain power were 'enough'...we will put it to good use on our own concept.
This will NOT be thrown together...it will be months before it comes to fruition...and you can bet: when it does--all T's will be crossed--and all I's dotted.
If the plan cannot guarantee enough backup plans and reserves for disasters and months to come--it wont happen. I will NOT operate a ponzi...EVER!!!!!!!
Just a 'heads-up' that it's being worked on. Since I cannot trust most admins TRULY...I know I can trust ME and the team in place to make a safe place for people.
I wanted to work on a recovery plan for TN's site--but, have recently discovered that what I thought was real--is not. I want to distance myself from as many memories there as humanly possible. I want to be excited about MY plans...not rescuing a sunk ship caused by the lack of many things somewhere else. I wanted to help the members there any way I could to recover any funds....I feel a responsibility to all TN members. I decided my plan will be best served giving them a new place to be...Stay Tuned!

Now...on to other 'industry' news:

Command Bravo is back and paying!! I mentioned before that I missed this site. Matt & Israel have worked hard to make something here...they don't give up...they try to make plans to make their sites even better. They have been around longer than most. I, for one, will be sinking more of my funds here....I implore you all to support these 2 guys.
I talk to Matt on a regular basis--and I feel they deserve much more support than they have gotten. They WANT to treat members right; please give them this chance. Payouts have started...and will continue the next few days until all are paid. I was paid 2 nights ago: Thanks, guys.
DSM is due back Friday...I have missed this site as well. Dustin has some great plans on making DSM a great site again as well. It's worth looking at seriously, too.
Manic Ads: Wow...impressive. Many ideas I had for a site I see here. Mike has outdone himself....I still find new things here I didn't know were there. I see this one becoming HUGE in the next month or two.
Denali-surf: I've had some opportunities to talk to Ryan here at Denali. He, too, is sick of the bullshit in this industry. He has some interesting plans for the future.
Coastin88 & CEPC: Love these sites. Trevor is looking into ways to make CEPTrust as legit as possible. I was concerned with this--as I was TSMC--I know Trevor & his team will work on this to make sure no loopholes are overlooked. More on this later.
AS49: Mike continues to do well--I enjoy this site very much. I get paid in 8-9 'normal' days everytime. The routine there is very predictable--which is a good thing.
Trickle Down Cash: a new one I joined. I like the low roi and the fact that Miriam has been plugging along for a year now. She flies under the radar--which is good. No drama here, folks...just a good admin who works on keeping members happy.
Eleven-11-surf: I wanted to make sure everyone knew this is a good site. Brenda is a wonderful woman...who deserves support. My funds slowed to the point where I had to narrow it down to a few sites. My upgrade expired here and I hadn't upgraded in awhile--that's been remedied--as Brenda does a great job and has that personal touch.
The Ultimate Surf: Nick continues to make his program stronger..and I will continue to support him. He is worth supporting, people. NO referral commission--BUT, who cares? I'll take him anyday and twice on Sunday.

Other-not so heartwarming news-:

24Daily Pro revival? PLEASE!!!!!!! PTSD can't pay...(as most of Will's other sites haven't)...so, since he needs attention drawn away from those disasters--he wants us to believe he has found a way to refund 24DP members and restart it?? I have some beach front property for sale in Arizona, too...interested??? How many times will people fall for the same bullshit stories from the same admins? I know we all want to believe--but, fall for this one at your own peril.
PTSPAYpro: I don't like what I am seeing--something IS rotten in Denmark here, people...and it isn't the food. We'll see what develops. Always drama...who knows what Terry really wanted to do with that 70k--he could very well have wanted to use it for investments...or not. We'll never know. The amts in Terry's TSMC account should have been kept quiet, though...see what I mean about this industry? It never end...Terry did refund members....and he did spend time getting the site back..why run now? Whether Terry's 'feud' with Will is real or not--we don't know. Maybe he did see the light and distanced himself from "Slick Willy" and is trying to make a good site (even though that ROI is a gamble)...It does provide some entertainment, though...I'm sure things will come to light (as much as they can) soon enough.
5050club: seems Charlie fulfilled his destiny once again and stopped paying. Poor guy: did I make your membership & upgrades take a tumble?? GOOD. Get lost, asswipe. Crawl back in that hole where you belong. I hope to send some more of your 'friends' down there with you.
150Profitsurf & 125surf: I will post the data soon so you all can see the comparisons on the connection here. Caution advised.
XLO sale: No, I wasn't happy...still am not. I will miss Andy as the admin here. He built something wonderful...as I stated on TSL: Andy did what he had to do; I won't pretend to understand it all...most XLO members probably don't have a problem with T. Star...so, at least members will not have their money in cyberspace indefinitely now. That's the positive side--and isn't that what makes the surf world continue to rotate: getting paid? You bet it is...face it--it's what matters to people the MOST.
Jason & Stacy from WH, EZ, and Dimension sites: I think they're working hard..I pray they don't give up making things right.
John at Fairpatton: People who live in glass houses should think twice before they cast stones. If you people thrive on- and believe in- double standards: he's your man.
Brian Sams: What a waste of time....very disappointing!!!!
Midas-surf: LOSERS!! Dont anyone dare put another dime in here...SAD!! What's really low is using one's disability to make people think you're somehow more trustworthy. LAME. For the record--when Andrew claimed TN owed him a BUNCH and I told him to send me transactions...and he said he would: He never did. If I thought someone could help me muddle through it all...I would have. He did NOT!
Blue Heaven Emails: More losers...do NOT believe their bullshit. I will be looking closer at Mr. Ben's info.. until then--don't anyone fall for their song & dance. Pathetic losers!! I even gave them 3 chances to contact me--NOTHING!!

I'm done for today--some shoutouts to:

Andrew at AutosurfingPros: this guy is fantastic...I love him to death...watch these podcasts, people...very enlightening and real. I hope to make time very soon to be on his show. God knows, the poor guy has waited long enough for me...(lol)..
Stephen & Teri Lynn from GEM: true integrity here, folks...you wont find too many more honest, decent, and wonderful than these two.
The many 'wounded' souls from the former TN mod squad and coaches team: Love you guys...thanks for the memories...and I look forward to making some long lasting ones with all of you...thanks for the love & support.

As always,

Happy Surfing

2007-01-04T03:01:00.000Z

Time for personal reflection and future inclinations:

Before I begin, I'll warn you that I have been more emotional, frustrated, and angry than I think ever in this industry. This will be a rather long post, but trust me--you'll find it either entertaining, depressing, enlightening, or pretty much all of the previous bound together.
I would rather lose more money than lose what, I feel, I have lost recently.
Emotion? Does it have a place in this crapshoot of surfing? No, it doesn't, & in a perfect, emotionless world...it wouldn't be. When you find THAT particular world...email me immediately...I'll be there. It's easy to write and say "leave emotion out"...but, face it...MONEY in itself is emotional....whether we are making it...or losing it.
So, why is it any surprise that we actually can become emotional (one way or the other) towards admins? I'm going to give you some, somewhat, personal insight into what makes me tick...what makes me the 'way I am sometimes'...I rarely 'let people too close' to me..I don't have time or energy for drama...manipulation by people..backstabbing BS, etc...it ticks me off royally.
I've been hurt more times than I can count in my life (as have many of us)...
So, once I met my husband--I decided I didn't care to have too many 'friends'--the one I did have then moaned & groaned about me NOT spending more time with HER..and less time w/my husband and young son (at that time)....I would sacrifice all I could for her...loan her money when she was in dire straights (which was often), and feel my energy drained.
When I met "Stormy" during my look at TN, we talked business only. I gained and verified certain info about her model...and as the months progressed (7 good ones in all)...we began a bonding during which we talked about everything you could imagine: political stances, religious beliefs, childhoods, past events in both of our lives, children, loyalty, the world in general, and on & on...I planned on taking my whole family to visit her on my spring break...
it was more than business...I even used to joke with her that somewhere along the line--my dad MUST have met her mom and we were somehow sisters...we laughed a LOT...just stupid stuff...
and it was good....or so I thought.

I know everyone out there who has lost here may never believe she is what I found her to be from April-late Oct.
All I know is what we shared as friends...which is why this is taking a BIG toll on me...
If it were JUST business, I'd be pissed..but, would get over it....but, having to sit & question every freaking talk we had--and wonder--is driving me nuts.
Now, here I sit...wondering how to help members...I DETEST anyone losing money--especially if they were there because of me.
Granted, I always advise to get seed money out...always. I always do and thats why my losses financially do not outweigh my wins.
I give people a lot of my own money when this shit happens...because even though I KNOW in my head--people should get seed out fast...etc...& my heart bleeds for the ones who got in late--and didn't get to experience TN when it was strong.

See...my stance on loyalty, I have found, does not fit in this industry...it SHOULD--but, once again...I tend to confuse idealism and realism...(ok..I don't confuse it...I wish for idealism--which is stupid)...
I am a VERY loyal person...to my detriment--even in my personal life...(I'm Italian...now you understand)...I 'assume' it's normal to be loyal....if someone gets your back...well, duh: you get theirs!! Right? Not in this industry, people.
It's RARE.......I see that..................now.
I vow to never allow myself to mix the business with friendship...not in this.
I will let you know what I know...with what I think based on logic alone....and the data, of course.

I have been great at being able to knock out who will 'hit & run' by scamming us....now, I need to somehow 'divine' when they will 'change', 'withdraw', 'alienate', or have any other multiple personality disorder.....(searching for that special rod)....
I can do what I do & thats it. I challenge anyone else to dig like I do...and find the things I have found. People only remember when you muck up...they usually fail to remember the times you saved them from a scammer who comes back hiding behind some other site(s)...(ie: 5050club)

I think it's time for me to do 2 things right now:

take a break from all the forums & a lot of other industry related things for awhile
start my own site (with the help of some very wonderfully talented people)

Oh: tidbit--
I went to log in to Todd's Surfsite "Monitor"....found myself banned. Why? Hmmm...wish I knew. I have posted there 4x in 3 months...last time was when TL came back..and I was answering questions. I have NO idea why I was banned...but, I find it totally irritating and disloyal. Like I did anything to anyone there--but, oh well.

This is what I mean about loyalty. The way I (and many) define loyalty in our lives is NOT the same loyalty in this damn industry. I have questioned whether I can even BE in this industry--as I even left advertising sales years ago-because even though I made a lot of money...I couldn't stand the lying...backstabbing and disloyal people.
In my field of gifted education, I get very anxious when I cant change things...I feel that anxiety here...the knowledge that 'this is how it is'...gets me sometimes.
I either have to accept it...or move on. I'll let you know what I decide.

New sites on my list are doing well; I'm VERY impressed with Mike from Manic Ads...well laid out & planned site. I haven't gotten the chance to talk to Mike yet...will try soon.

I also joined Ryan's: Denali Surf...and I like it so far.

Ryan emailed me not long ago...he has some future things that I wanted to hear more about.
Will let you know when I do.

XLO...well, well....I wondered if the TFT would hit XLO...

I wont comment more....too tired....

As Always,

Happy Surfing

2006-12-29T02:36:00.000Z

Well, when you think it cant get worse...it does.

TFT's issues caught most of us by surprise. When email responses by Andy had slowed down...I started wondering if it was due to him having to work harder to get funds moving....my nagging feeling the last week and a half was there gnawing at me. I certainly didn't think it would result in Andy having to admit it was so bad that he would have to stop payouts for now...etc. I had JUST been thinking about how happy I was that I had TFT to count on....(lol)....yeah, so much for that.

XLO is a separate issue...so, people: don't confuse the 2. I think XLO WILL take a slowing hit as well--due to people NOT being able TO separate the 2--therefore, with all the losses for us lately, I think people will slow upgrades there as well.

It's raining...it's pouring, folks...where will it end?

I had to give myself a heart to heart in reference to TN the past week...finally let my thoughts and feelings fly on ASA...and found myself shocked that I even was. I feel I've been gutted like a fish. Here's to hanging on to my mom's miracle as something good to hang on to as 2006 being a wonderful year. Everything else can go away. Can it? We'll see.

Andrew from Midas-Surf: What in the world are you doing? DO NOT use MY name in your emails so people think I am on your side--fighting for you-- I am NOT. I wanted to be fair to you (since I called you a liar on ASA about your TN money)...I told you I saw the transaction of your payout FROM TN. Way back the last time when you got up your butt the intention of coming back and said she didnt pay you...Jake & I said you WERE paid. You, not once then, negated that to us...just went on a hiatus again. NOW...you're back--with the same claim. Since I want to be fair...as many people have NOT been paid in full from TN, I told you I would look at your transactions and see if your claim was valid. I would look at it all...have you tell me whether you opted IN or OUT (as that matters when figuring money owed)...and POST if YOU were correct that she DID owe you, and that I would tell her she DID owe you more. That was IT. That's much different than me interceding on your behalf and fighting to get you money. DO NOT use my name again in this manner...or you will see me TRULY angry. I dont know what happened to you either...but, I cant see any reasons why you have been out of the loop so long...and expect people to jump on board again. BTW: I still havent received this from Andrew. Enough of that, too.

I'm sick of many admins in this crapshoot...seriously, the lies...deceit...(and no, I don't mean TN)...if some of you only knew the LIES they tell..
Many wouldn't know the truth if it came up & introduced itself....it's pathetic.
Some lie with straight faces...and give you fancy reasons why you should believe them...or they hide their deception in faster payouts...
Bottom line: Many--if not MOST--people don't give a rats ass about anything except getting paid. Satan could open a prog and if he paid consistently for months...and gave you a song & dance about WHY he is evil--people would be: "well, at least he was honest about why he's evil...AND he pays...so, who cares ?"
Makes me sick. I will go broke NOT putting money in this industry if I have to support admins like this.
Many have told lies right now that I have the proof for....and people have no clue...I'd post it if I thought many cared one iota about honesty...but, they wont. So, why do it if I'm the one seen as trying to stir the magic pot? You're all big boys & girls...and if you want to believe the lie WHILE you get paid: Go for it. I'm not your mama...

You want the truth...you know where to find me. Ive been stupid enough to believe that when people saw the truth...they'd automatically care...most do NOT. THAT, my friends, is what this industry can do to people. Let's all wear our rose-colored glasses, shall we?
We've all done it...difference is: when some of us begin to see how EVERYTHING always looks so disgustingly rosy...we begin to wonder why and how it can be? Others: just nod and walk along smelling the fake flowers. They fail to see the mirage they walk in...but, oh well.

NOW...on to some better news: (yes, there is some)...

2 programs I joined that I like...I have not spoken to either admin yet...but, Chad on TSL likes these...and for now--that will do for me until I find some time to speak to them..and dig more.
Check them out if you'd like..

Manic Ads (I LOVE this one)...
Trickle Down Cash (low roi...stable...good admin from what I know so far)

Good news on other progs I've liked:

Command Bravo is set to be back Jan 1...I've missed them.
DesertSky is also due back in Jan...missed them as well...Dust has a great new plan...I will be supporting him and Matt & Israel from Bravo as usual.

I'm on to other interesting connections between some progs and older ones we didn't like. More to come on this when I have the final comparisons in.
These older scammers seem to be coming back in new progs to catch you all with your pants down...so: BE CAREFUL!!
Also, many small-mid size progs will begin showing the crisis of the money they lost using funds for 13DP and 12x12daily...so, watch it. (Not to mention the funds on hold with TFT as well.)

Hope everyone had a good CHRISTmas....
and I wish you all a VERY HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR!! (we could all use it)...