Sorry if I've been slower getting to pm's and emails....been 'under the weather'....
I wanted to touch on a couple of things this week:
I wanted to touch on a couple of things this week:
EDIT:
Seems Mike REALLY HAS had enough of running a surf site. He HAD to know 'things would come up' that wouldnt go perfectly...it hasnt even been a full business day and he is caving. I feel cheated....cheated from a unique, wonderful program that WOULD have gone all the way to the top. I don't get how Mike can throw away all of that hard & productive work -making what would have been the 'best surf out there'...
He could have worked this out with Egold...this is him really being tired of doing it. I wish he would have asked for help...delegated some of the responsibility--ANYTHING to keep this wonderful program alive. Not to be crude; but, I feel like I've had 4 awesome hours of foreplay only to be told the intercourse can't happen now...
It's a damn shame...I had high hopes for this one; and I KNOW Mike had the ability and foresight to make this one TRULY stable. Add in the level of programming ability Mike has with his great plans....and cooperative nature with his members...and this would have been number one. Maybe someday, he'll bring it back....we can hope...
We all have to do what we have to do.....so, I wish Mike the best.
(side note: I was all ready paid my rebate in full. Thanks, Mike!)
Seems Mike REALLY HAS had enough of running a surf site. He HAD to know 'things would come up' that wouldnt go perfectly...it hasnt even been a full business day and he is caving. I feel cheated....cheated from a unique, wonderful program that WOULD have gone all the way to the top. I don't get how Mike can throw away all of that hard & productive work -making what would have been the 'best surf out there'...
He could have worked this out with Egold...this is him really being tired of doing it. I wish he would have asked for help...delegated some of the responsibility--ANYTHING to keep this wonderful program alive. Not to be crude; but, I feel like I've had 4 awesome hours of foreplay only to be told the intercourse can't happen now...
It's a damn shame...I had high hopes for this one; and I KNOW Mike had the ability and foresight to make this one TRULY stable. Add in the level of programming ability Mike has with his great plans....and cooperative nature with his members...and this would have been number one. Maybe someday, he'll bring it back....we can hope...
We all have to do what we have to do.....so, I wish Mike the best.
(side note: I was all ready paid my rebate in full. Thanks, Mike!)
- Progression on Ms. Gant is continuing--please don't think we have forgotten it. I've even found some new info on past things--so, it 'coming along'...this will NOT be let go. Rest assured on that front....I don't care how LONG it takes...I will not let go of holding her accountable in some fashion.
- The dream Sandra had started with my matrix based on my former surf tutor program will be realized. I will not allow HER failure to be mine. This matrix will be alive & very soon. A top notch MLM producer that created this-- is working with me to bring this to life...and life it will have. You will not only have the ability to REALLY earn a residual income quickly...but, you will have the data reports that many of you liked in my old program. Background checks and as thorough a dig that is possible will be done on all progs chosen for the month. It's costly to do so....but, it's vital to minimize the risks as much as possible. It isn't a 'sure thing'---seeing as how I did a full one on Sandra and it still didn't change the outcome. Running every check in the world cannot predict a person's nature as to whether they can change and become pond scum by stealing from us. It can, however, alert us to any dealings in their respective pasts to indicate their honesty factor right from the beginning IF their goal is to take off soon.
- Caution again on 24DP "reloaded"....do NOT buy this BS....since he couldn't raise enough to give refunds BEFORE people had to re-upgrade...that gives you a rough idea of his financial standing. You all might get paid awhile on these new upgades...but, add in all you've lost in the other 4-5 you may have joined & lost in...and you have MAJOR deficits right off the bat. He's had ample time to raise funds to, at least, refund SOME people before they have to upgrade again....please throw away your rose colored/happy-happy-joy-joy/hopeful glasses here. Stand up & refuse the kool-aid; do NOT become the NEW suckers in this one....!
- Blue Heaven Emails: This asshole is still accepting upgrades--he sends out emails pretending that he's refunded people...must be invisible money....no one has seen any! DO NOT fall for Ben's lies.....I'll be doing a comprehensive check in him soon...will be interesting to see what skeletons that asswipe has in his closet.
- I started a comparison of a new prog (going well right now)....to another older one...similarities are scary....but, I'm not positive yet....will find more as soon as possible so you can be informed.
- I have to comment on what I've heard on how a certain person was treated in the Tri Star camp. Most know that Brookie & I have had our differences--but, I was very upset at the way I heard she was treated by Todd at SSM. There ARE always 2 sides to the story and this is based on ONE SIDE ONLY. I hope if there are any hard feelings between these 2--that it can be remedied. Since I have been alerted to the OTHER side of this--I will refrain from thinking I know the whole story; really none of my business anyway--people tend to share what's going on in areas of the industry...& I just felt sensitive that Brookie FELT hurt...and I hope that since she and Todd want the best for Bob's programs--they can get along.
Progs I have been paid from recently:
Progs I am liking and see becoming more stable :
- Computer-Traffic: paid in one hour--
- The Ultimate Surf: right on time, Nick!
- AS49: Last week; small referral commission payout
- Coastin 88
- DSM
Progs I am liking and see becoming more stable :
- Computer-Traffic
- The Ultimate Surf
- NEW Virtual Surf
- Command Bravo
- DSM
- Coastin 88
- Manic Ads (if Mike finds his resolve again & realizes his potential)
Ok; I'm worn out...have things to get done...be sure to check out & d/l the DD Toolbar; it's a must have.
Until next time:
Happy Surfing
~~Caio~~
Until next time:
Happy Surfing
~~Caio~~
Exciting New Programs:
- Computer-Traffic: Nice site!! 4% /40 days. You can cash out weekly to the processor of your choice.
We also offer 500 credits to sign up and upgraded members can earn 2 credits for each site viewed.
There are no silly rules like 50/50 here. The plan is basic. You upgrade, you surf, you get paid. You request payouts on Friday, I'll try to pay you by Saturday. Sometimes my members get lucky and get paid within hours. - Check out Net Zen's blog for a post on Mark and the site in general.
NEW Virtual Surf: Mordk has decided to give 'adminship' a try here & I'm in. I have faith in her ability and certainly her dedication to people. Some of you know her as the one you went to for help in the now defunct 13DP. I recently saw posts where some idiots just ASSume that because she played this role...surely this means she was a part of some elaborate scam plan....well, I'll actually bite my hand here from typing exactly what I think of small minded people such as these. She is just as torn as the members--she lost as well. Believe it or not....and if you don't: fine....don't join. I like the "XLO" feel here....2% /75 days...daily payouts with Egold or STP. The site is 'different'...what a nice layout. You'll be impressed. Kris, the former admin of Virtual Surf is still the programmer--and what a fine job he has done. You'll remember that Kris refunded all members from his old surf.
- New program from the Command Center....only open to current Bravo or Surf members.10%/13 days....use the same email for this as you do for C. Bravo & C. Surf so the admins can verify your current membership. This one is worth a look.
Check the last post for other exciting programs and opportunities.
Now for the part where I go over the not so great 'happenings':
- 24 Daily Pro: People....please be cautious! We all want to believe--hope--but, be REALISTIC!! Marshall a.k.a Will, has had more sequels than a Nightmare on Elm Street--and we KNOW how THOSE ended....(ok, I know...humor...but you get my drift). Leo-a.k.a-Drunk On Life sums it up well, too. I would add BMW Surf to that long list he hasof "Will's" failed sites. The fact that you have to join the new one to get money WAY PAST due just takes the cake...NOW....miracles DO happen....so, if he can find a way to pay all the old debt...then maybe we can be hopeful. The old saying (paraphrased): screw me once--shame on you; screw me twice--shame on me, holds true. BE CAREFUL. If Ms. Gant threw herself back in the ring...trust me, she would have to pay every dime before I'd even acknowledge her. Even then....I would find it hard almost impossible to trust again. I may be finding the realism in this industry and understanding that few give a crap about integrity like I do...but, that doesn't mean I ever have to trust them again. If people have the character to 'take from you all once'---odds are---under pressure they could again. So, if they've done it MORE THAN ONCE---you do the Math.
- 5050Club: Well, seems like Charlie's MO finally came full circle...surprise? It shouldn't be. If you need to understand...re-read point # 1 above.
- 125Surf/150ProfitSurf: Well, seems the 150ProfitSurf is a tad irritated at my insistence that SHE (Cathy a.k.a Adil) is related somehow to the admin from 125surf (Nate)...I posted on 2 forums the domain record showing this. The admin from 150profit surf came on TSL and stated the domain names are 'wrong'....and that SHE is not a SHE. When the 150profitsurf first came online and posted on ASA (Adil) --I mentioned that with the shared hosting (that she offered, by the way)...she had porn sites all over--which she did remove. It was obvious (by her own admission) that SHE was Adil.....now all of a sudden she is not. I don't recall any transfer of ownership being posted--but, maybe I missed it-- Here are the domain records for 125surf & 150profit surf:
Domain name: 125SURF.COM
Administrative Contact:
Qazalbash, Nadeem Nate_4000@yahoo.com
6025 Cork County
Galloway, OH 43119
US
Domain name: 150PROFITSURF.CO
Administrative Contact:
Qazalbash, Cathy adil_44@yahoo.com
6025 cork county dr.
ohio, OH 43119
US
- Once again...please be cautious of these new HIGH roi programs who offer instant payouts. These are total and complete games...and statistically: they are scams. They are dropping like flies as I write........
- Ones I've been looking closer at and hope to have some stronger facts on:
- Weekly-Traffic
- Exotic Surf Pro
Payouts this week so far......
- Manic Ads: always fast--super site!
- Command Bravo--the boys are back!
- DSM: Paid in one day--way to go!
- AS49: Paid in 3 days--fastest reg payout yet!
Enough for now......
Happy Surfing
~~Caio~~
Happy Surfing
~~Caio~~
I wanted to share with all of you that Bob & I both have buried the hostility, at least.
The issue is now over....and I would ask that all of you who have discussed the odds that Bob & I were at...now stop. It won't help anything...and I need to let go of all hostility. It serves no purpose.
I have 'mutated' some since this ordeal with Sandra; my opinions on what is & can be real in this industry are adapting to the ACTUAL reality.
I want you all to know that holding Sandra Gant accountable is of utmost importance to me. She must know that she can't just walk away leaving people to suffer financial &/or personal losses.
She made herself out to be 'different'....so, therefore I will not treat her as any 'regular' admin who decides to pull this shit. I was an integral part in bringing many of you to TN; therefore, I feel a responsibility to do what I can to hold her accountable.
Now, on to 'other' things:
- Affiliate Biz by Manic-Ads:
This is a very powerful multi-level membership based affiliate program featuring exclusive ebooks and software that can help you make even more money online. E-Gold is the only payment processor and all commissions are paid automatically and instantly to your E-Gold account every time someone joins under you. Since our program is a membership program. All members must pay the monthly $10.00 membership fee to retain access to the exclusive features.
Featuring spillover. Once a sponsor has his/her first level full, all other referring members will be spilled over to their downline.
Level 1 10 = 10 members
Level 2 10x10 = 100 members
Level 3 10x10x10 = 1000 members
Level 4 10x10x10x10 = 10000 members
Level 5 10x10x10x10x10 = 100000 membersCommission Structure:
Level 1: 25%
Level 2: 10%
Level 3: 15%
Level 4: 20%
Level 5: 30%
- Leo..a.k.a. Drunk On Life started a referral co-op/link exchange called My Random Downline. I think it's a wonderful and unique idea. Here are the FAQ's right from the site:
My Random Downline Frequently Asked Questions
How My Random Downline Works:
My Random Downline is basically a referral co-op or link exchange. As a Subscribed Member, you can add up to 5 referral links into the database. Every time a page is refreshed, a random referral link is attached to the banners shown. Members join sites through the database, other members reciprocate and people make money from the random referrals. You can advertise programs such as Paid to Surf, affiliate products (Clickbank), advertise a blog or service, or promote a network marketing site. Don't see your program listed? No problem! You can always submit a request to add a program anytime. The Member BackOffice of this site will show how many times your banner ad with your referral link was shown as well as how many times it was clicked. You can add and remove links as often as you like. Every program can have up to 2 banner ads: 468x60 and 125x125.
You might ask where the value would be if everyone is promoting the same site. Well, there is no value and there would be no value if you bought an ad for the same site on a forum or elsewhere. Most members will realize this and choose some of the lesser known programs out there to maximize their profit potential. Some will give Clickbank a go and others will simply want to promote their website/blog. There will be strategy behind how you choose your referral links.
The banners ads with random referral links will appear in various places on MyRandDownline.com, as well as our future forum and monitoring site.
- Check out Brian Page's site for another very nice idea; I'll be checking this out soon.
- Awesome new toolbar (and NO spyware attached)...this gives a basic 'looksie' at the obvious things with programs and is called simply enough The DD Toolbar. (does work for IE & Firefox)
Progs I am liking very much:
- Manic Ads: Paid for the 3rd time today...I think Mike has great plans and is doing a wonderful job creating something diverse and stable.
- Coastin 88: Always paid within hours of request--as long as the CEPTrust issue can reach total legality--I'll feel even better.
- Command Bravo: They are back and doing very well. Give these guys a chance! I was paid after they first came back, and I believe my 2nd one is still pending--havent checked today, though.
- Desert Sky: Dust is doing well since re-launch. I think you'll be happy here, too.
- The Ultimate Surf: Nick continues to build stability..this one is a keeper for awhile.
- Denali Surf: Ryan does a nice job!
- AS49: I am still enjoying this one...still paid every 8-9 days...
Words of Caution:
I am seeing some more hit & run sites lately...and there are some now who have been around maybe 2 weeks and are all ready showing signs of late payouts:
I cannot stress ENOUGH that when a program offers REALLY goofy returns AND instant payouts...odds are it's a hit & run site, ok??
Please do NOT be silly with these and continue to put ALL your funds right back in for that 'one last shot'....usually it's that 'one last time' that winds up being the time you get your ass bit.
ALWAYS take your seed out IMMEDIATELY. I do this with EVERY site...I don't care how much I like it, how good the data looks, how much I talk to the admin...I ALWAYS take the seed out FIRST. Just do it...and if you want to 'gamble'--please do it with the profits ONLY.
It's a good idea to take out MOST of the profit the first time as well...and let it build gradually.....IF you think it's a site that will NOT hit & run to begin with.
Until then---
Happy Surfing
~~Caio~~
I cannot stress ENOUGH that when a program offers REALLY goofy returns AND instant payouts...odds are it's a hit & run site, ok??
Please do NOT be silly with these and continue to put ALL your funds right back in for that 'one last shot'....usually it's that 'one last time' that winds up being the time you get your ass bit.
ALWAYS take your seed out IMMEDIATELY. I do this with EVERY site...I don't care how much I like it, how good the data looks, how much I talk to the admin...I ALWAYS take the seed out FIRST. Just do it...and if you want to 'gamble'--please do it with the profits ONLY.
It's a good idea to take out MOST of the profit the first time as well...and let it build gradually.....IF you think it's a site that will NOT hit & run to begin with.
- That's about it for now...I'm looking at some 'things' and am starting to see a link between many people & I don't like the secrecy that there appears to be...former (not so great) admins coming back...possibly teaming up with others....will post more when the facts are solid.
Until then---
Happy Surfing
~~Caio~~
Ok....back from my weekend at my parents...and I will now clarify ONCE and for ALL some misconceptions. Everyone READ ACCURATELY AND COMPLETELY...INSTEAD OF POSTING IN PLACES HOW SOME OF US SPECULATE WITH NO FACTS.
Everything I have EVER posted about Bob Krimm IS based on FACT...so, writing how some of us bloggers only speculate right BELOW where we post facts is bogus.
I was away long enough to realize why this industry SUCKS!! My weekend was backstabbing free, no drama...no lies...why? Because I stayed off of forums...I come back to pathetic posts where people CLAIM what I've posted in other places...and one email where more misconceptions are brewed. It's done...this is the LAST time I will post on Bob Krimm...I'm so sick of his name I could puke anyway...
Before I begin--let me preface this with my overall disgust at this whole industry since Sandra Gant proclaimed her 'quest' for screwing people over.
I am definitely more negative than usual...BUT, I don't think thats all bad--because it will not allow me to ever lose my objectivity again.
Why is it that Krimm followers can give advice about how I was wrong to take what Sandra said at face value...yet thats exactly what they do with Bob...not easy, is it???
EVERY popular program that has EVER been out there has had it naysayers...and they all get blasted from the ones who believe in a program.
WE all have done it....so, don't jump on your damn high horses too much when someone ELSE does it...OR when its done about an admin you DO or do NOT like.
I realized that since I bought Sandra's bullshit...hook, line, & sinker...then I have no right to wonder why others do it with other admins.
I don't give a rats ass what you all do...you want Bob? There he is...go be with him.
At least he pays...I don't care anymore how he makes his money...he IS making it....so GO!
You have a right to be IN his progs...I have the right to NOT be...obviously, I'm not some ref whore...or I'd be on the Krimm chariot like many of you.
For the record, here are the beefs I had with Bob...these are the ONLY ones...
1) He lied about his application for his processor being pending and awaiting approval in January--it was a LIE. Period. All you have to do is call the agent in Michigan who processes them and request the list (if its not now available online)....Bob wasn't there!!!!
I only wonder if some of us hated bloggers did NOT dig on this...would he have moved at all? Or would he have put members monies at risk of a cease & desist??? I don't know...& don't care now.
2) His unprofessional and immature video bashing me when I made it clear to Brookie that the stupid bankruptcy thing would never be shared. How many freaking times do I have to post this?? I ran into it in a comprehensive check...I didn't care...no one cares...
Bob made himself the martyr by acting like Big. Bad Vee was after him when all he does is try to be good to people....(whaaaaaaaa)....
I was in 2 of his progs...and liked them...it was all blown way out of proportion...
Bob either likes to portray himself as the victim from all of us 'meanies'...or the big savior..
you know what?? GO...be whoever you want, Bob....I don't CARE!!!
3) The way he let Jake take the fall for the Terry incident. BOB gave Jake that info...divulged the info....yet, he gave TERRY the benefit of the doubt over those damn screenshots..NOT Jake--his friend. Thats what set me off that one night on ASA...I heard Jake's voice...all bummed...and Sandra's disloyalty wasn't too dim in my mind..and I got angry...
I told Jake to tell everyone that Bob told him...why was he taking the fall?? I guess Jake just didn't want to lash BACK out at Bob..like Bob did him.
4) I NEVER, EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR called Bob a scammer....not ONCE!!!!
I have made THAT clear as well, yet its ignored. I do NOT think he is one...I think he wants these progs to be HUGE...I think he wants to make sure what happened to his wife doesn't happen to anyone else...I DO think Bob wants to build something good for his members...
there hasn't been ONE damn email or post where someone who cares for me AND is in Bobs programs hasn't asked me: should I leave Bobs programs?? and I've said YES...I ALWAYS tell them to stay IN...not to be silly and let MY dislike for Bob stand in the way of them --or anyone--making money....If I thought Bob was a scam artist (like Sandra)...I would tell them to RUN. Have I ever?????????????????? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEVER....and I'm sick & damn tired of people twisting what I post and making it out like I ever called him that...or said he is a ponzi..
5) Ponzi...I have NEVER said he is one now...I think Bob has made sure he isn't...
ALL of this is moot anyway....because I started this digging on his processor...(and please keep in mind..Bobs PROGS have NEVER been questioned by me...ONLY his processor)...
I actually believed admins COULD be real...genuine...trustworthy...etc...
That has ALL changed now...so, I have a different feeling toward the whole Bob Krimm deal.
I will keep a safe distance from all admins...if they need me; I'll be there to help. But, if & when I see those red flags...and I hear a BS story..I will post that I think it's BS...no more 'wanting to believe in Sam, Dick, Harry, or Sally...to the point where I get logic muddled'. I now will go into these conversations with the knowledge that I will probably be getting a small-medium sized song & dance...
Since I don't think any of them can be trusted for too long....then how can I say anything against Bob--because of a few dishonest moments?? God knows Sandra built up to MONTHS of lies...
If I cant trust someone I spoke to on the phone 3-5x a day for 6 months...I cant trust any of them for too long...or with too much.
I think Bob has NO intention of scamming....now I wonder how long Sandra had her plan TO do this?? I am confused...angry...and full of distrust and sickened by the lack of loyalty...
I have learned there is no place for it....you all just want to make money...so, go do it.
Just don't be naive like I was and take EVERYTHING any admin says at face value (like they'll be here forEVER.....that cant happen...even if they bust it TRYING)...
You all who bitched & moaned about my trust in HER...you're doing the same thing.
So, when you take the moat out of YOUR eye...then come pick my splinter out...
I'm sick of the double standards....backstabbing...
I could be a total bitch and out of my dislike for Bob all these months...I could be a lame ass and yell: Bobs a ponzi...bob's a scammer...but, I never did...because I didn't believe that.
I posted some facts...clear ones...easily verified for anyone who cares about looking up something on your own...NOT speculation...FACT. If you all don't care...why should I?
I see things differently now...
I will concentrate on catching the former scammer sons of bitches from coming back and screwing you all...and I will be able (if I'm looking at it) to catch admins who plan on hitting & running.
I ran a full check on Sandra....just to make SURE I wasn't fooling myself....(see, I didn't just do it on Bob...I did it on HER, too)....
It's obvious some of these admins change...get greedy....go hormonal...or whatever their lame reasoning is for screwing us over.
Don't forget my motives ARE to protect...I didn't want Bobs processor to be illegal and then he gets a cease & desist ordered...then where would all your monies have been?? In the same damn place as 12DP monies.
The bloggers who seem to be 'causing trouble'--some of us are the very ones naive' enough to think people actually CARE about ANYTHING other than making money.
Some say: thats what we're here for....maybe they're right.
If thats what they want....fine. I don't care...
I've lost my desire to carry the integrity torch....my fire is gone for that.
I'll do what I do....try to help those who want it....
Many want to only point out my failures....no one ever remembers the HUNDREDS I've called correctly...it's more fun to notice the bad...its human nature.
Jake on ASA knows...he knows how many I pegged correct when I was picking premiums there eons ago...
See...no one knows those...and thats ok. Anyone can have good records when they have just started...or pick the best ones...(even 4 months ago...anyone could tell by logic that Bob would boom...)....
Try doing this for 16-18 months...& we'll see how high & mighty you are then...
My energy is being spent on a plan to nail Sandra Gant's ass to the wall...
She took on the wrong person...I spent time with my dad this weekend (the one who is good friends with not only US Marshalls--but, US DEPT of Justice people...and a couple of secret service agents--as well as HUNDREDSSSSSSSSS of REAL advertising gurus)...
So, the visit yielded 4 things:
1) splendid ideas on how to nail Sandra
2) splendid ideas on how to make MY site more legit than any before (cant give that secret away just yet....but, its my dad's contacts that will make this a dream)...
3) time with my wonderful mom & dad
4) time with my sister who has her bridal shower...(upcoming wedding on Feb 10th)..
I want you all to know that I am more negative and angry...so, I'll apologize in advance.
I felt better being away over the weekend...I realized how caught up I get in this craziness...and I'm sorry for my emotions getting in the way sometimes. I'm doing something about it...
I feel responsible for anyone I brought to TN...the hurt any of you are going through...much less money lost. I'm sorry....I am building a site that will have TRUE outside sources...
this is different than what you're used to.....(as far as outside revenue)...so, you'll see soon.
And to Mr. Krimm: "Bob...I only cared about your processor as well...I cared when Jake was hurting....so, I'm sorry for the unprofessional remark on ASA...that's not like me...so, I'm sorry.
I DO NOT think you're a scammer...I hate that all of this has gone crazy.
Since I dont think you want your members hurt (like Sandra did to all of us)...
I guess I have no reason to post anything else about you...everyone heard my beefs...and they are OVER now...
I do wish you and your progs the best...the industry needs them..."
The Krimm comments, for me, are done......unless something new falls in my lap..I'm done with the same crap over & over. The nasty shit is eating me up...Sandra's shit is enough for me to deal with...I just dont care anymore about what he's doing...not doing.....who's in...out...
unless he's doing something REALLY bad....I dont want to know, hear, see...anything else.
I'm done with most things-------
~~caio~~
Everything I have EVER posted about Bob Krimm IS based on FACT...so, writing how some of us bloggers only speculate right BELOW where we post facts is bogus.
I was away long enough to realize why this industry SUCKS!! My weekend was backstabbing free, no drama...no lies...why? Because I stayed off of forums...I come back to pathetic posts where people CLAIM what I've posted in other places...and one email where more misconceptions are brewed. It's done...this is the LAST time I will post on Bob Krimm...I'm so sick of his name I could puke anyway...
Before I begin--let me preface this with my overall disgust at this whole industry since Sandra Gant proclaimed her 'quest' for screwing people over.
I am definitely more negative than usual...BUT, I don't think thats all bad--because it will not allow me to ever lose my objectivity again.
Why is it that Krimm followers can give advice about how I was wrong to take what Sandra said at face value...yet thats exactly what they do with Bob...not easy, is it???
EVERY popular program that has EVER been out there has had it naysayers...and they all get blasted from the ones who believe in a program.
WE all have done it....so, don't jump on your damn high horses too much when someone ELSE does it...OR when its done about an admin you DO or do NOT like.
I realized that since I bought Sandra's bullshit...hook, line, & sinker...then I have no right to wonder why others do it with other admins.
I don't give a rats ass what you all do...you want Bob? There he is...go be with him.
At least he pays...I don't care anymore how he makes his money...he IS making it....so GO!
You have a right to be IN his progs...I have the right to NOT be...obviously, I'm not some ref whore...or I'd be on the Krimm chariot like many of you.
For the record, here are the beefs I had with Bob...these are the ONLY ones...
1) He lied about his application for his processor being pending and awaiting approval in January--it was a LIE. Period. All you have to do is call the agent in Michigan who processes them and request the list (if its not now available online)....Bob wasn't there!!!!
I only wonder if some of us hated bloggers did NOT dig on this...would he have moved at all? Or would he have put members monies at risk of a cease & desist??? I don't know...& don't care now.
2) His unprofessional and immature video bashing me when I made it clear to Brookie that the stupid bankruptcy thing would never be shared. How many freaking times do I have to post this?? I ran into it in a comprehensive check...I didn't care...no one cares...
Bob made himself the martyr by acting like Big. Bad Vee was after him when all he does is try to be good to people....(whaaaaaaaa)....
I was in 2 of his progs...and liked them...it was all blown way out of proportion...
Bob either likes to portray himself as the victim from all of us 'meanies'...or the big savior..
you know what?? GO...be whoever you want, Bob....I don't CARE!!!
3) The way he let Jake take the fall for the Terry incident. BOB gave Jake that info...divulged the info....yet, he gave TERRY the benefit of the doubt over those damn screenshots..NOT Jake--his friend. Thats what set me off that one night on ASA...I heard Jake's voice...all bummed...and Sandra's disloyalty wasn't too dim in my mind..and I got angry...
I told Jake to tell everyone that Bob told him...why was he taking the fall?? I guess Jake just didn't want to lash BACK out at Bob..like Bob did him.
4) I NEVER, EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR called Bob a scammer....not ONCE!!!!
I have made THAT clear as well, yet its ignored. I do NOT think he is one...I think he wants these progs to be HUGE...I think he wants to make sure what happened to his wife doesn't happen to anyone else...I DO think Bob wants to build something good for his members...
there hasn't been ONE damn email or post where someone who cares for me AND is in Bobs programs hasn't asked me: should I leave Bobs programs?? and I've said YES...I ALWAYS tell them to stay IN...not to be silly and let MY dislike for Bob stand in the way of them --or anyone--making money....If I thought Bob was a scam artist (like Sandra)...I would tell them to RUN. Have I ever?????????????????? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEVER....and I'm sick & damn tired of people twisting what I post and making it out like I ever called him that...or said he is a ponzi..
5) Ponzi...I have NEVER said he is one now...I think Bob has made sure he isn't...
ALL of this is moot anyway....because I started this digging on his processor...(and please keep in mind..Bobs PROGS have NEVER been questioned by me...ONLY his processor)...
I actually believed admins COULD be real...genuine...trustworthy...etc...
That has ALL changed now...so, I have a different feeling toward the whole Bob Krimm deal.
I will keep a safe distance from all admins...if they need me; I'll be there to help. But, if & when I see those red flags...and I hear a BS story..I will post that I think it's BS...no more 'wanting to believe in Sam, Dick, Harry, or Sally...to the point where I get logic muddled'. I now will go into these conversations with the knowledge that I will probably be getting a small-medium sized song & dance...
Since I don't think any of them can be trusted for too long....then how can I say anything against Bob--because of a few dishonest moments?? God knows Sandra built up to MONTHS of lies...
If I cant trust someone I spoke to on the phone 3-5x a day for 6 months...I cant trust any of them for too long...or with too much.
I think Bob has NO intention of scamming....now I wonder how long Sandra had her plan TO do this?? I am confused...angry...and full of distrust and sickened by the lack of loyalty...
I have learned there is no place for it....you all just want to make money...so, go do it.
Just don't be naive like I was and take EVERYTHING any admin says at face value (like they'll be here forEVER.....that cant happen...even if they bust it TRYING)...
You all who bitched & moaned about my trust in HER...you're doing the same thing.
So, when you take the moat out of YOUR eye...then come pick my splinter out...
I'm sick of the double standards....backstabbing...
I could be a total bitch and out of my dislike for Bob all these months...I could be a lame ass and yell: Bobs a ponzi...bob's a scammer...but, I never did...because I didn't believe that.
I posted some facts...clear ones...easily verified for anyone who cares about looking up something on your own...NOT speculation...FACT. If you all don't care...why should I?
I see things differently now...
I will concentrate on catching the former scammer sons of bitches from coming back and screwing you all...and I will be able (if I'm looking at it) to catch admins who plan on hitting & running.
I ran a full check on Sandra....just to make SURE I wasn't fooling myself....(see, I didn't just do it on Bob...I did it on HER, too)....
It's obvious some of these admins change...get greedy....go hormonal...or whatever their lame reasoning is for screwing us over.
Don't forget my motives ARE to protect...I didn't want Bobs processor to be illegal and then he gets a cease & desist ordered...then where would all your monies have been?? In the same damn place as 12DP monies.
The bloggers who seem to be 'causing trouble'--some of us are the very ones naive' enough to think people actually CARE about ANYTHING other than making money.
Some say: thats what we're here for....maybe they're right.
If thats what they want....fine. I don't care...
I've lost my desire to carry the integrity torch....my fire is gone for that.
I'll do what I do....try to help those who want it....
Many want to only point out my failures....no one ever remembers the HUNDREDS I've called correctly...it's more fun to notice the bad...its human nature.
Jake on ASA knows...he knows how many I pegged correct when I was picking premiums there eons ago...
See...no one knows those...and thats ok. Anyone can have good records when they have just started...or pick the best ones...(even 4 months ago...anyone could tell by logic that Bob would boom...)....
Try doing this for 16-18 months...& we'll see how high & mighty you are then...
My energy is being spent on a plan to nail Sandra Gant's ass to the wall...
She took on the wrong person...I spent time with my dad this weekend (the one who is good friends with not only US Marshalls--but, US DEPT of Justice people...and a couple of secret service agents--as well as HUNDREDSSSSSSSSS of REAL advertising gurus)...
So, the visit yielded 4 things:
1) splendid ideas on how to nail Sandra
2) splendid ideas on how to make MY site more legit than any before (cant give that secret away just yet....but, its my dad's contacts that will make this a dream)...
3) time with my wonderful mom & dad
4) time with my sister who has her bridal shower...(upcoming wedding on Feb 10th)..
I want you all to know that I am more negative and angry...so, I'll apologize in advance.
I felt better being away over the weekend...I realized how caught up I get in this craziness...and I'm sorry for my emotions getting in the way sometimes. I'm doing something about it...
I feel responsible for anyone I brought to TN...the hurt any of you are going through...much less money lost. I'm sorry....I am building a site that will have TRUE outside sources...
this is different than what you're used to.....(as far as outside revenue)...so, you'll see soon.
And to Mr. Krimm: "Bob...I only cared about your processor as well...I cared when Jake was hurting....so, I'm sorry for the unprofessional remark on ASA...that's not like me...so, I'm sorry.
I DO NOT think you're a scammer...I hate that all of this has gone crazy.
Since I dont think you want your members hurt (like Sandra did to all of us)...
I guess I have no reason to post anything else about you...everyone heard my beefs...and they are OVER now...
I do wish you and your progs the best...the industry needs them..."
The Krimm comments, for me, are done......unless something new falls in my lap..I'm done with the same crap over & over. The nasty shit is eating me up...Sandra's shit is enough for me to deal with...I just dont care anymore about what he's doing...not doing.....who's in...out...
unless he's doing something REALLY bad....I dont want to know, hear, see...anything else.
I DON'T CARE
I'm done with most things-------
~~caio~~
quick post to let you all know I will leaving for my moms in the next hr. My sister's bridal shower is tomorrow...so, I'll be driving all day today....
If I dont get to emails...etc for a day or two...you'll know why...be back Monday...
I need away from all the madness anyway...
If I dont get to emails...etc for a day or two...you'll know why...be back Monday...
I need away from all the madness anyway...
ok...time to update on MANY things: Long one...but, worth reading (IMHO):
I can't seem to shake the negative feelings I have about this industry as a whole--and, that's probably a good thing. I was told by someone last night that I have too much 'estrogen' (lol)...
well, yeah...we females will have that tendency...(thank god)...
It's funny...I was talking to Leo (Drunkonlife) the other night and mentioned that same thing...people tell me to 'let things go'...and I answer: I guess it's the 'woman thing' that makes me more emotional at times. There IS no room for being a 'softy' (of course my 'softy' side is geared toward the people...and feeling despair for them when they lose--especially if it's due to me--)--
There is no room for trust--relationships w/ admins--false honesty--belief that integrity resides in this industry--or any other 'happy, happy, joy, joy' feelings.
I was told to get back that tough skin I possessed months ago--before "Stormy" sabotaged my trust and belief that admins in this industry COULD be 'good' somehow.
I agree that my 'tough' nature must return full throttle--and it shall. I'm back to being 'me'--whether some like it or not: I will call it as I see it--and if I do: I have the proof: period.
Take it--leave it: I don't care. If you don't like it...move on and read some happy--happy--joy--joy BS somewhere else; where fantasies thrive and realism is ignored.
I'm not meaning that there aren't good people in this industry--there are. There are 'good' admins (course...'good' is a relative term...a truly UNdefined word)...
there are certainly good surfers....people like the rest of us...just looking for a way to earn some extra money...pay the bills and MAYBE have something left over to treat our families to something nice.
My convo last night with a friend had us relaying how 'simpler' things were 'back in the good times'--then we realized: there really werent 'good times'--it was just different.
We both asked ourselves: " why do we do this?" "are we really helping?" " is it worth the 'feelings' we ALL have? (Once again...back to the misconception that most of us CAN keep some type of feeling out)...
I ask myself that question daily anymore--I am working on ways to get over my utter contempt for many people/admins/scams/lies/deceit/dishonesty/lack of integrity.
If I am to stay in this rat-race, I WILL have to accept things as they are--and quit fooling myself in thinking that there ARE TRULY honest and altruistic admins.
They all, in one way or another, make decisions based on less than honest intentions. This industry has a way of 'softening' the lines of where character and deceit lie.
It 'softens' the conscience into justifying certain areas. The thought process of: 'the end justifies the means' comes to mind.
I read a post from someone I used to trust and care for that stated this:(paraphrased) "When people constantly question an admin after their hard work--I don't blame certain admins for closing up shop and TAKING OFF WITH FUNDS".
Let me explain something: there is NEVER a reason or justification to 'run off with funds'...
That's an example of how this industry allows people to justify bullshit actions.
I think this happens to MANY admins (who WERE honest to begin with)...they work hard to make members happy...then something legit DOES happen to throw a curve in the plans..
Admins work harder to rectify the situations...people begin whining & complaining (which god knows they can do)....admins work harder...people whine some more...and before you know it: admins justify their hard work for no gratitude and figure: "screw them all--I'll just take whats mine"...I bet this happens more than we think. (enter Dave Cannard theory #1A)
Now, many of you may have heard that I plan on opening up a site. Yes, it's a risk--but, I will vow to always be honest IF things arise that will throw a curve in my plans.
There is a wonderful team of people ready to go...(many of us screwed over by TN)...since, "Stormy" obviously didnt think our ideas and brain power were 'enough'...we will put it to good use on our own concept.
This will NOT be thrown together...it will be months before it comes to fruition...and you can bet: when it does--all T's will be crossed--and all I's dotted.
If the plan cannot guarantee enough backup plans and reserves for disasters and months to come--it wont happen. I will NOT operate a ponzi...EVER!!!!!!!
Just a 'heads-up' that it's being worked on. Since I cannot trust most admins TRULY...I know I can trust ME and the team in place to make a safe place for people.
I wanted to work on a recovery plan for TN's site--but, have recently discovered that what I thought was real--is not. I want to distance myself from as many memories there as humanly possible. I want to be excited about MY plans...not rescuing a sunk ship caused by the lack of many things somewhere else. I wanted to help the members there any way I could to recover any funds....I feel a responsibility to all TN members. I decided my plan will be best served giving them a new place to be...Stay Tuned!
Now...on to other 'industry' news:
- Command Bravo is back and paying!! I mentioned before that I missed this site. Matt & Israel have worked hard to make something here...they don't give up...they try to make plans to make their sites even better. They have been around longer than most. I, for one, will be sinking more of my funds here....I implore you all to support these 2 guys.
I talk to Matt on a regular basis--and I feel they deserve much more support than they have gotten. They WANT to treat members right; please give them this chance. Payouts have started...and will continue the next few days until all are paid. I was paid 2 nights ago: Thanks, guys. - DSM is due back Friday...I have missed this site as well. Dustin has some great plans on making DSM a great site again as well. It's worth looking at seriously, too.
- Manic Ads: Wow...impressive. Many ideas I had for a site I see here. Mike has outdone himself....I still find new things here I didn't know were there. I see this one becoming HUGE in the next month or two.
- Denali-surf: I've had some opportunities to talk to Ryan here at Denali. He, too, is sick of the bullshit in this industry. He has some interesting plans for the future.
- Coastin88 & CEPC: Love these sites. Trevor is looking into ways to make CEPTrust as legit as possible. I was concerned with this--as I was TSMC--I know Trevor & his team will work on this to make sure no loopholes are overlooked. More on this later.
- AS49: Mike continues to do well--I enjoy this site very much. I get paid in 8-9 'normal' days everytime. The routine there is very predictable--which is a good thing.
- Trickle Down Cash: a new one I joined. I like the low roi and the fact that Miriam has been plugging along for a year now. She flies under the radar--which is good. No drama here, folks...just a good admin who works on keeping members happy.
- Eleven-11-surf: I wanted to make sure everyone knew this is a good site. Brenda is a wonderful woman...who deserves support. My funds slowed to the point where I had to narrow it down to a few sites. My upgrade expired here and I hadn't upgraded in awhile--that's been remedied--as Brenda does a great job and has that personal touch.
- The Ultimate Surf: Nick continues to make his program stronger..and I will continue to support him. He is worth supporting, people. NO referral commission--BUT, who cares? I'll take him anyday and twice on Sunday.
Other-not so heartwarming news-:
- 24Daily Pro revival? PLEASE!!!!!!! PTSD can't pay...(as most of Will's other sites haven't)...so, since he needs attention drawn away from those disasters--he wants us to believe he has found a way to refund 24DP members and restart it?? I have some beach front property for sale in Arizona, too...interested??? How many times will people fall for the same bullshit stories from the same admins? I know we all want to believe--but, fall for this one at your own peril.
- PTSPAYpro: I don't like what I am seeing--something IS rotten in Denmark here, people...and it isn't the food. We'll see what develops. Always drama...who knows what Terry really wanted to do with that 70k--he could very well have wanted to use it for investments...or not. We'll never know. The amts in Terry's TSMC account should have been kept quiet, though...see what I mean about this industry? It never end...Terry did refund members....and he did spend time getting the site back..why run now? Whether Terry's 'feud' with Will is real or not--we don't know. Maybe he did see the light and distanced himself from "Slick Willy" and is trying to make a good site (even though that ROI is a gamble)...It does provide some entertainment, though...I'm sure things will come to light (as much as they can) soon enough.
- 5050club: seems Charlie fulfilled his destiny once again and stopped paying. Poor guy: did I make your membership & upgrades take a tumble?? GOOD. Get lost, asswipe. Crawl back in that hole where you belong. I hope to send some more of your 'friends' down there with you.
- 150Profitsurf & 125surf: I will post the data soon so you all can see the comparisons on the connection here. Caution advised.
- XLO sale: No, I wasn't happy...still am not. I will miss Andy as the admin here. He built something wonderful...as I stated on TSL: Andy did what he had to do; I won't pretend to understand it all...most XLO members probably don't have a problem with T. Star...so, at least members will not have their money in cyberspace indefinitely now. That's the positive side--and isn't that what makes the surf world continue to rotate: getting paid? You bet it is...face it--it's what matters to people the MOST.
- Jason & Stacy from WH, EZ, and Dimension sites: I think they're working hard..I pray they don't give up making things right.
- John at Fairpatton: People who live in glass houses should think twice before they cast stones. If you people thrive on- and believe in- double standards: he's your man.
- Brian Sams: What a waste of time....very disappointing!!!!
- Midas-surf: LOSERS!! Dont anyone dare put another dime in here...SAD!! What's really low is using one's disability to make people think you're somehow more trustworthy. LAME. For the record--when Andrew claimed TN owed him a BUNCH and I told him to send me transactions...and he said he would: He never did. If I thought someone could help me muddle through it all...I would have. He did NOT!
- Blue Heaven Emails: More losers...do NOT believe their bullshit. I will be looking closer at Mr. Ben's info.. until then--don't anyone fall for their song & dance. Pathetic losers!! I even gave them 3 chances to contact me--NOTHING!!
I'm done for today--some shoutouts to:
- Andrew at AutosurfingPros: this guy is fantastic...I love him to death...watch these podcasts, people...very enlightening and real. I hope to make time very soon to be on his show. God knows, the poor guy has waited long enough for me...(lol)..
- Stephen & Teri Lynn from GEM: true integrity here, folks...you wont find too many more honest, decent, and wonderful than these two.
- The many 'wounded' souls from the former TN mod squad and coaches team: Love you guys...thanks for the memories...and I look forward to making some long lasting ones with all of you...thanks for the love & support.
As always,
Happy Surfing
Time for personal reflection and future inclinations:
Before I begin, I'll warn you that I have been more emotional, frustrated, and angry than I think ever in this industry. This will be a rather long post, but trust me--you'll find it either entertaining, depressing, enlightening, or pretty much all of the previous bound together.
I would rather lose more money than lose what, I feel, I have lost recently.
Emotion? Does it have a place in this crapshoot of surfing? No, it doesn't, & in a perfect, emotionless world...it wouldn't be. When you find THAT particular world...email me immediately...I'll be there. It's easy to write and say "leave emotion out"...but, face it...MONEY in itself is emotional....whether we are making it...or losing it.
So, why is it any surprise that we actually can become emotional (one way or the other) towards admins? I'm going to give you some, somewhat, personal insight into what makes me tick...what makes me the 'way I am sometimes'...I rarely 'let people too close' to me..I don't have time or energy for drama...manipulation by people..backstabbing BS, etc...it ticks me off royally.
I've been hurt more times than I can count in my life (as have many of us)...
So, once I met my husband--I decided I didn't care to have too many 'friends'--the one I did have then moaned & groaned about me NOT spending more time with HER..and less time w/my husband and young son (at that time)....I would sacrifice all I could for her...loan her money when she was in dire straights (which was often), and feel my energy drained.
When I met "Stormy" during my look at TN, we talked business only. I gained and verified certain info about her model...and as the months progressed (7 good ones in all)...we began a bonding during which we talked about everything you could imagine: political stances, religious beliefs, childhoods, past events in both of our lives, children, loyalty, the world in general, and on & on...I planned on taking my whole family to visit her on my spring break...
it was more than business...I even used to joke with her that somewhere along the line--my dad MUST have met her mom and we were somehow sisters...we laughed a LOT...just stupid stuff...
and it was good....or so I thought.
I know everyone out there who has lost here may never believe she is what I found her to be from April-late Oct.
All I know is what we shared as friends...which is why this is taking a BIG toll on me...
If it were JUST business, I'd be pissed..but, would get over it....but, having to sit & question every freaking talk we had--and wonder--is driving me nuts.
Now, here I sit...wondering how to help members...I DETEST anyone losing money--especially if they were there because of me.
Granted, I always advise to get seed money out...always. I always do and thats why my losses financially do not outweigh my wins.
I give people a lot of my own money when this shit happens...because even though I KNOW in my head--people should get seed out fast...etc...& my heart bleeds for the ones who got in late--and didn't get to experience TN when it was strong.
See...my stance on loyalty, I have found, does not fit in this industry...it SHOULD--but, once again...I tend to confuse idealism and realism...(ok..I don't confuse it...I wish for idealism--which is stupid)...
I am a VERY loyal person...to my detriment--even in my personal life...(I'm Italian...now you understand)...I 'assume' it's normal to be loyal....if someone gets your back...well, duh: you get theirs!! Right? Not in this industry, people.
It's RARE.......I see that..................now.
I vow to never allow myself to mix the business with friendship...not in this.
I will let you know what I know...with what I think based on logic alone....and the data, of course.
I have been great at being able to knock out who will 'hit & run' by scamming us....now, I need to somehow 'divine' when they will 'change', 'withdraw', 'alienate', or have any other multiple personality disorder.....(searching for that special rod)....
I can do what I do & thats it. I challenge anyone else to dig like I do...and find the things I have found. People only remember when you muck up...they usually fail to remember the times you saved them from a scammer who comes back hiding behind some other site(s)...(ie: 5050club)
I think it's time for me to do 2 things right now:
I went to log in to Todd's Surfsite "Monitor"....found myself banned. Why? Hmmm...wish I knew. I have posted there 4x in 3 months...last time was when TL came back..and I was answering questions. I have NO idea why I was banned...but, I find it totally irritating and disloyal. Like I did anything to anyone there--but, oh well.
This is what I mean about loyalty. The way I (and many) define loyalty in our lives is NOT the same loyalty in this damn industry. I have questioned whether I can even BE in this industry--as I even left advertising sales years ago-because even though I made a lot of money...I couldn't stand the lying...backstabbing and disloyal people.
In my field of gifted education, I get very anxious when I cant change things...I feel that anxiety here...the knowledge that 'this is how it is'...gets me sometimes.
I either have to accept it...or move on. I'll let you know what I decide.
Will let you know when I do.
As Always,
Happy Surfing
Before I begin, I'll warn you that I have been more emotional, frustrated, and angry than I think ever in this industry. This will be a rather long post, but trust me--you'll find it either entertaining, depressing, enlightening, or pretty much all of the previous bound together.
I would rather lose more money than lose what, I feel, I have lost recently.
Emotion? Does it have a place in this crapshoot of surfing? No, it doesn't, & in a perfect, emotionless world...it wouldn't be. When you find THAT particular world...email me immediately...I'll be there. It's easy to write and say "leave emotion out"...but, face it...MONEY in itself is emotional....whether we are making it...or losing it.
So, why is it any surprise that we actually can become emotional (one way or the other) towards admins? I'm going to give you some, somewhat, personal insight into what makes me tick...what makes me the 'way I am sometimes'...I rarely 'let people too close' to me..I don't have time or energy for drama...manipulation by people..backstabbing BS, etc...it ticks me off royally.
I've been hurt more times than I can count in my life (as have many of us)...
So, once I met my husband--I decided I didn't care to have too many 'friends'--the one I did have then moaned & groaned about me NOT spending more time with HER..and less time w/my husband and young son (at that time)....I would sacrifice all I could for her...loan her money when she was in dire straights (which was often), and feel my energy drained.
When I met "Stormy" during my look at TN, we talked business only. I gained and verified certain info about her model...and as the months progressed (7 good ones in all)...we began a bonding during which we talked about everything you could imagine: political stances, religious beliefs, childhoods, past events in both of our lives, children, loyalty, the world in general, and on & on...I planned on taking my whole family to visit her on my spring break...
it was more than business...I even used to joke with her that somewhere along the line--my dad MUST have met her mom and we were somehow sisters...we laughed a LOT...just stupid stuff...
and it was good....or so I thought.
I know everyone out there who has lost here may never believe she is what I found her to be from April-late Oct.
All I know is what we shared as friends...which is why this is taking a BIG toll on me...
If it were JUST business, I'd be pissed..but, would get over it....but, having to sit & question every freaking talk we had--and wonder--is driving me nuts.
Now, here I sit...wondering how to help members...I DETEST anyone losing money--especially if they were there because of me.
Granted, I always advise to get seed money out...always. I always do and thats why my losses financially do not outweigh my wins.
I give people a lot of my own money when this shit happens...because even though I KNOW in my head--people should get seed out fast...etc...& my heart bleeds for the ones who got in late--and didn't get to experience TN when it was strong.
See...my stance on loyalty, I have found, does not fit in this industry...it SHOULD--but, once again...I tend to confuse idealism and realism...(ok..I don't confuse it...I wish for idealism--which is stupid)...
I am a VERY loyal person...to my detriment--even in my personal life...(I'm Italian...now you understand)...I 'assume' it's normal to be loyal....if someone gets your back...well, duh: you get theirs!! Right? Not in this industry, people.
It's RARE.......I see that..................now.
I vow to never allow myself to mix the business with friendship...not in this.
I will let you know what I know...with what I think based on logic alone....and the data, of course.
I have been great at being able to knock out who will 'hit & run' by scamming us....now, I need to somehow 'divine' when they will 'change', 'withdraw', 'alienate', or have any other multiple personality disorder.....(searching for that special rod)....
I can do what I do & thats it. I challenge anyone else to dig like I do...and find the things I have found. People only remember when you muck up...they usually fail to remember the times you saved them from a scammer who comes back hiding behind some other site(s)...(ie: 5050club)
I think it's time for me to do 2 things right now:
- take a break from all the forums & a lot of other industry related things for awhile
- start my own site (with the help of some very wonderfully talented people)
I went to log in to Todd's Surfsite "Monitor"....found myself banned. Why? Hmmm...wish I knew. I have posted there 4x in 3 months...last time was when TL came back..and I was answering questions. I have NO idea why I was banned...but, I find it totally irritating and disloyal. Like I did anything to anyone there--but, oh well.
This is what I mean about loyalty. The way I (and many) define loyalty in our lives is NOT the same loyalty in this damn industry. I have questioned whether I can even BE in this industry--as I even left advertising sales years ago-because even though I made a lot of money...I couldn't stand the lying...backstabbing and disloyal people.
In my field of gifted education, I get very anxious when I cant change things...I feel that anxiety here...the knowledge that 'this is how it is'...gets me sometimes.
I either have to accept it...or move on. I'll let you know what I decide.
- New sites on my list are doing well; I'm VERY impressed with Mike from Manic Ads...well laid out & planned site. I haven't gotten the chance to talk to Mike yet...will try soon.
- I also joined Ryan's: Denali Surf...and I like it so far.
Will let you know when I do.
- XLO...well, well....I wondered if the TFT would hit XLO...
As Always,
Happy Surfing
